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shackone 05-30-2007 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by Short Bus Drive (Post 173262)
You did not hurt my feelings. Thanks for caring though.
I seem to have hit a little sore spot for you though. I would think after your 37 years of doing this you would let all this roll off your shoulder. (The one without the chip on it).

You continue to make this personal. Doing so doesn't contribute to the subject. If you have something substantial to add to this subject, then let's see it.

Until then, the point is that sim instructors are there to help folks make it to IOE...if they make mistakes along the way, then we'll fix them.

flynavyj 05-31-2007 07:58 AM

when i went through at trans states we had a 15% washout, which the company initially considered to be "high" but they didn't change anything to make it come down.

Our flight safety instructor didn't teach my sim partner and myself how to do the call outs, company profiles, and flows. While it would be nicer if they had, they didn't, because they often can confuse the two different companies (chautauqua and TSA) in STL. My partner and I studied profiles and flows for 2.5-3 hrs a day, had them memorized before each sim session, went in, flew the way we had studied, and passed w/o incident, the sim instructor kept a copy of our SOP at the instructor station while he taught, to ensure that call outs and profiles were being done correctly.

If company instructors were doing it, i think it would have been easier, if line pilots were doing it, i think it'd be just as difficult as the SIM is not flown like the Line and everybody knows that. There could be a lot of confusion between the two groups.


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