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Time2Fly 06-10-2008 11:25 AM

Trans States Furloughing
 
...Just got the call.

Trans States will be Furloughing 45 Pilots effective July 1st

CRJDriver 06-10-2008 11:30 AM

Damn! That sucks! I wish you and everyone else the best of luck. If you want to get in again, we are hiring at Comair, so if there is anything I can do, let me know!

Airsupport 06-10-2008 11:35 AM

ffs..
and one more for min post count

ffs..

Time2Fly 06-10-2008 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by Airsupport (Post 401598)
ffs..
and one more for min post count

ffs..

sorry, what is ffs?

Airsupport 06-10-2008 11:39 AM

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look it up there.

disclaimer it may lead to foul language.

AV8ER 06-10-2008 11:44 AM

Man guys...that sucks. I just got the downgrade here...don't come back to this craphole. Nothing good will come of coming back...go get an interview at one of the regionals that are hiring, even though there aren't a lot. Or better yet, get out of this horrendous industry.

TBucket 06-10-2008 11:47 AM

This freaking blows... And they just spent all week junioring captains like crazy to staff their flights... I can imagine the furlough will work about as well as the downgrade has... Idiots...

Mossy 06-10-2008 11:50 AM

bad news for all of us at tsa. start putting in those grad school apps.

Short Bus Drive 06-10-2008 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by Time2Fly (Post 401588)
...Just got the call.

Trans States will be Furloughing 45 Pilots effective July 1st

No "30 day notice" ? :confused:

AV8ER 06-10-2008 11:58 AM

Last I heard, not only are they not furloughing, they're hiring...sounds familiar, eh?

flynavyj 06-10-2008 12:23 PM

hiring...and street captains at that....bad times over here, hopefully, it won't last long...but you never know.

reevesofskyking 06-10-2008 12:41 PM

I thought it was a company bluff to get a cheap contract out of us.

Sorry to those 45 that got it, hang in there

Salukipilot4590 06-10-2008 01:05 PM

Sitting AR right now and I havent got the call yet...I think I might be 47 from the bottom...I'll wait and see for now.

I feel like crap for everyone...

ScaryKite 06-10-2008 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by flynavyj (Post 401660)
hiring...and street captains at that....bad times over here, hopefully, it won't last long...but you never know.


i just threw up in my mouth! I'd like to extend a good luck to everyone at TSA! I hope things work out for you.

bryris 06-10-2008 01:31 PM

It certainly is a thankless career isn't it?

If the number is only 45, the good news it could be worse really. 70-80 was the number floating around a month ago. We all knew this was going to happen so it isn't really a huge surprise.

grossole 06-10-2008 01:37 PM

this is bad news for all at tsa. if any of the 45 need anything, let me know... message me or call me if i've flown with you.

Golden Child 06-10-2008 01:38 PM

Ffs
 
Here we go again. I was one of those furloughed, and they called to tell me right after one of the flight managers finished swearing to me that they were not going to. Oh well, who's hiring? I heard a lot going around about how ALPA thought management had learned it's lesson after the last furlough...

Golden Child 06-10-2008 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by bryris (Post 401740)
It certainly is a thankless career isn't it?

If the number is only 45, the good news it could be worse really. 70-80 was the number floating around a month ago. We all knew this was going to happen so it isn't really a huge surprise.

The 70 went down to 45 after ALPA was able to get 20 voluntary furloughs to those willing. I heard this from our Onion MEC. Could there be a few more coming down the wire? How's our US Air flying?

bryris 06-10-2008 01:45 PM

Did any RIC Fos get the boot?

usmc-sgt 06-10-2008 01:51 PM

If any of you are CFIs in the MA area shoot me a PM I may be able to help you out or i know my airline is looking as well for a few bodies which is better than not working. Shoot me a PM if I can help some of you guys out.

Koolaidman 06-10-2008 02:40 PM

TSA furloughing was the best thing that happened to me. I got out before getting furloughed back in 2006 and couldn't be happier. I believe out of the 48 furloughed back in 2006, 13 or so came back? Not sure of the actual number, but there weren't many who returned.

I am definitely sorry to hear about those who were furloughed, but try to make the best of it by finding a better place to work. I was happy at Trans States, but that was because I didn't have anything to compare it to. Ask anyone who has left and gone elsewhere how they feel now and it should hopefully make you feel better.

We had one guy who got furloughed and went to gojet. I saw him the other day as a CA and I still feel dirty for being cordial and saying hi.

TBucket 06-10-2008 04:08 PM

I haven't heard anything about how it went as far as how many from RIC-STL, but I know RIC had a TON of reserves this last month, so I doubt it will go well for them...

bryris 06-10-2008 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by TBucket (Post 401822)
I haven't heard anything about how it went as far as how many from RIC-STL, but I know RIC had a TON of reserves this last month, so I doubt it will go well for them...

Well 45 between both bases might fall somewhere like 15/30 or so, that'll drop the STL FO list back to about 150 or so, that is still pretty good and more in line with where its been the last year or so.

172capt 06-10-2008 04:23 PM

I hear GO Jets is hiring.....

Salukipilot4590 06-10-2008 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by 172capt (Post 401829)
I hear GO Jets is hiring.....

Tell me about it...

A10crewdawg 06-10-2008 04:26 PM

I hear Kwik Trip pays more. 40k starting managers with benies

nathanexplosion 06-10-2008 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by Golden Child (Post 401749)
Here we go again. I was one of those furloughed, and they called to tell me right after one of the flight managers finished swearing to me that they were not going to. Oh well, who's hiring? I heard a lot going around about how ALPA thought management had learned it's lesson after the last furlough...

There might be more hiring going on out there than you think. There are still some job opening left in the US (although a lot of them may be places you've never heard of), and internationally there are quite a few opportunities if you're willing to go "outside the box".

There's a good job search tool here:
http://www.mypilotcareer.com/Airline_Pilot_Jobs.php

Input your flight times and it will give you a list of companies you meet the minimums for inside and outside the US.

TimSmith 06-10-2008 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by Koolaidman (Post 401781)
TSA furloughing was the best thing that happened to me. I got out before getting furloughed back in 2006 and couldn't be happier. I believe out of the 48 furloughed back in 2006, 13 or so came back? Not sure of the actual number, but there weren't many who returned.

I am definitely sorry to hear about those who were furloughed, but try to make the best of it by finding a better place to work. I was happy at Trans States, but that was because I didn't have anything to compare it to. Ask anyone who has left and gone elsewhere how they feel now and it should hopefully make you feel better.

We had one guy who got furloughed and went to gojet. I saw him the other day as a CA and I still feel dirty for being cordial and saying hi.

Now this is funny...a SKW guy talking trash about GoJet, a non-union airline undercutting the rest of the industry.:rolleyes:

cfii2007 06-10-2008 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by nathanexplosion (Post 401836)
There might be more hiring going on out there than you think. There are still some job opening left in the US (although a lot of them may be places you've never heard of), and internationally there are quite a few opportunities if you're willing to go "outside the box".

There's a good job search tool here:
http://www.mypilotcareer.com/Airline_Pilot_Jobs.php

Input your flight times and it will give you a list of companies you meet the minimums for inside and outside the US.

You said "tool".............

145mule 06-10-2008 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by 172capt (Post 401829)
I hear GO Jets is hiring.....

I got the furlough notice today... And knowing that GoJet is still hiring makes this harder to swallow.

For the others that got the notice today- Did you find the phone call to be cold?

My mentor told me that you are not a true airline pilot until you have been furloughed, gone on strike, and survived a bankruptcy. One down....two to go.

Flyboy8784 06-10-2008 05:33 PM

All I can say to those new hires....As tempting as it may be to have a job....PLEASE for the love of all things Holy.....DO NOT GO TO GOJETS!!!!

Im sure most of you are educated enough about them....they arent doing you any favors. Things will get better.....eventually

cbram 06-10-2008 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by TimSmith (Post 401838)
Now this is funny...a SKW guy talking trash about GoJet, a non-union airline undercutting the rest of the industry.:rolleyes:


What kind of b.s. remark is this?

coldpilot 06-10-2008 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by 145mule (Post 401862)
I got the furlough notice today... And knowing that GoJet is still hiring makes this harder to swallow.

For the others that got the notice today- Did you find the phone call to be cold?

My mentor told me that you are not a true airline pilot until you have been furloughed, gone on strike, and survived a bankruptcy. One down....two to go.

Don't forget divorced. You have to be divorced too ;)

Best of luck to all of you at TSA. I'm looking at hearing the F-word soon too.

WhiteH2O 06-10-2008 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by coldpilot (Post 401883)
Best of luck to all of you at TSA. I'm looking at hearing the F-word soon too.

I heard through the grape vine yesterday that I should expect an f-word letter next month for a f-word to start in September. This will be my second f-word in a year. Yay for me. Yay for all of us.

According to www.mypilotcareer.com I am eligable for a few jobs based in India or China. Although I have been through quite a few indocs lately, and I might be up for a break from the industry for a while.

coldpilot 06-10-2008 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 401890)
I heard through the grape vine yesterday that I should expect an f-word letter next month for a f-word to start in September. This will be my second f-word in a year. Yay for me. Yay for all of us.

According to www.mypilotcareer.com I am eligable for a few jobs based in India or China. Although I have been through quite a few indocs lately, and I might be up for a break from the industry for a while.

Are you S.O.? On the SAAB at Eagle?

stillageek 06-10-2008 06:33 PM

A little off topic but I heard TSA was TDY'ing guys from STL to MIA since AA has a new TSA "base" in MIA now. This true ? TDYing is $$$$ paying for hotels 24/7 plus per diem.

bryris 06-10-2008 06:46 PM

There is another closed thread on this board saying "with more to come in the following weeks". Are they seriously considering more or is this just rumor?

reevesofskyking 06-10-2008 06:54 PM

They will not know what to do next until the can observe the pilot group squirm around, then they will make another quick move that will be boneheaded in nature.
I would just wait and see how this pony rolls down the hill.

To be honest, I was hoping this was managments way to call our bluff in contract talks. I was way wrong on that.

kalymnos 06-10-2008 07:06 PM

I find it funny that no one sees this as a blessing in disguise, when one door closes another opens...

bryris 06-10-2008 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by kalymnos (Post 401929)
I find it funny that no one sees this as a blessing in disguise, when one door closes another opens...

People like to make their own choices, not be forced out. If I thought I could find a truly better place (considering many factors), I'd do it in a heartbeat on a voluntary basis. Getting a furlough is rarely a blessing. Sure you can make the most of it.


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