Purpleanga

The CPS/TSA MECs have been talking about the future of the two ALPA carriers. Obviously the flow through is a major issue at CPS but as of right now, nothing has come of anything, they're just talking. TSA is deep in contract talks, so that also complicates things.

TSA management just came out with a threatning letter that pointed out that if we don't accept the current offer, they'll shut down operations. The current offer, along with improvement in work rules, did state that we will get the MRJs with separate pay along with preferential hiring for TS furloughs but as far as we're concerned there was nothing in the letter that indicated that these were not just empty promises, that they wouldn't replace TSA anyways down the road. Nothing on there about plans for 3 different pilot groups, as of right now their plan is to keep things the way they are. One certificate furloughing while the other hiring, is the name of their game. Hopefully we can get this problem sorted out but it's going to require pilots to be unselfish and work together.

Copperhed51

Just for clarification, it promised that TSA would receive the first 10 MRJ's (minimum). That is assuming they ever actually take delivery.

Purpleanga

Yes exactly. The MRJ thing is just to get our attention, that is still at a minimum 4 years away. A lot can happen by then.

Palmtree Pilot

This is the third maybe fourth time in 11 years that Hulas is in a Head-on battle against the pilot group and contract issues. He has won all of them so far, and knows that the pilot group will give in before they get everything they fully deserve. Just voting to strike will not do it this time either; Infact nothing will work to get you guys and gals everything you deserve and have been owed for 6 years. He has the upper hand unless that group decides to be the new pioneers in the regional industry and truely fight for what they deserve or let it die on the vine.

I say "shut'er down!" Or take another contract extension, cause that will solve everything.

Good luck people,

PtP

Phuz

So Hulas is promising TSA the first 10 MRJs if they accept the contract thats on the table?

Talk about dangling the carrot.

The MRJs will go to the lowest bidder in a 3-way race to the bottom. It doesn't matter what uncle Huly promised you in a letter, he has no intention of honoring it.

Purpleanga

Hulas has a history of threatening pilots with closing the operation. They did the same before signing the current contract. Hulas will have the leverage when he can actually shut down TSA and satisfy his contractual obligations to UA and US, very unlikely. They're going to give us MRJs but they have no problem shutting it down right now, I don't think anybody is buying their threat it's pretty sad and pathetic actually. As it's been said before, the union needs to read between the lines to understand what this company is really offering. And with all the whipsaw at TSH, it's very unlikely that there will be a TA with no job protection. They can promise all the MRJs they'd like.

JayHub

Two quick ones...

1. I've drawn a blank, what was the last regional airline to shut down OPS because they did'nt want to negotiate with the pilot group?

2. I haven't seen this 'Shut'er Down' Letter, but in any case do the members of the 'TSA Management Negotiating Team' or anyone in TSA Management for that matter have job protection with TSH? I mean these guys are saying 'We'll shut'er down if you strike'....well...Hmmm..OK....so are they 'The Management' basically negotiating themselves out of a job?..or, do they plan on joining/bumping the management types from Compass or Gojet to the street?