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sweetholyjesus 03-15-2017 06:14 AM


Originally Posted by Route66 (Post 2320901)
For those of you who do not believe your union is worth spit (like the APA or ALPA) you can keep ALL OF YOUR MONEY. These unions have been crapping on the junior people, the Regionals, OR selectively giving greater seniority "payola" to their CHOSEN FEW for many years. Its time for change.

This I somewhat agree with. A change from ALPA would be good for the regionals. ALPA primarily serves the mainline's agendas, which hurt the regionals. Serving both sides of the table at once is a huge conflict of interests.

However, removing unions altogether would be a bad thing. No one in their right mind would ditch ALPA if they had a mainline job. But I wonder what would happen to regional unions if this passed?

trip 03-15-2017 06:20 AM


Originally Posted by deadseal (Post 2320911)
If you think you won't get absolutely bent over by your respective airline with out a union then you are an idiot. And before you quote Skywest, they have the threat of unionization looming over their necks. And they still get pretty screwed with work rules. When do the racist/sexist white men who voted for him realize and/or admit they got bamboozled by a Wall Street shark who cares nothing about the working man? This guy has done this through out his entire career as a business man, it's no shocker that it's happening in the WH too. But hey, we get a 30 billion dollar wall, and a Chinese steel pipeline right? If it wasn't so pathetic it be almost funny.

Well that didn't take long.
Three posts and your all racist/sexist pigs.

deadseal 03-15-2017 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by trip (Post 2320945)
Well that didn't take long.
Three posts and your all racist/sexist pigs.

Why else could anyone in their right mind vote for a man who has no decorum, no self control, and has a clear non biased factual track record of ****ting on every business deal he can? Could you imagine this guy as your squadron cc or OG or WC? As someone's screen name says , sweet holy Jesus. And before you say Hillary was/is a crooked POS, I agree with you. There was a third party or you could abstain. I hope everyone realizes that this guy is gunning for organized labor right? Everyone gets that? No *****footing around, this goes right after every airline pilots quality of life.

sweetholyjesus 03-15-2017 07:44 AM


Originally Posted by deadseal (Post 2320988)
Why else could anyone in their right mind vote for a man who has no decorum, no self control, and has a clear non biased factual track record of ****ting on every business deal he can? Could you imagine this guy as your squadron cc or OG or WC? As someone's screen name says , sweet holy Jesus. And before you say Hillary was/is a crooked POS, I agree with you. There was a third party or you could abstain. I hope everyone realizes that this guy is gunning for organized labor right? Everyone gets that? No *****footing around, this goes right after every airline pilots quality of life.

We desperately need competent third party candidates. This video alone is why I decided not to vote for Gary Johnson.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xlmU9LvtAs

No Land 3 03-15-2017 07:49 AM

Translation reads, "right to be fired with no reason given".
I am a pro Trumper, but living in such a state, and having experienced what this can lead to, this is a horrible thing for anyone other than the business owner.

DC8DRIVER 03-15-2017 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by Route66 (Post 2320920)
This thread is for the "silent" minority ...

... of one.

Andy 03-15-2017 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by sweetholyjesus (Post 2321006)
We desperately need competent third party candidates. This video alone is why I decided not to vote for Gary Johnson.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xlmU9LvtAs

All four candidates sucked. I could come up with labels for anyone who voted for Clinton, Johnson, or Stein. None of those labels would be completely accurate (well, maybe labelling Stein voters as tree huggers would be legit). But to label all Trump voters as 'racist/sexist white men' or 'deplorables' only makes me want to vote for Trump and ignore all of his flaws.

deadseal, if you ever want to influence others to do the opposite of what you want, start out by insulting them. More than anything else, the 'deplorables' comment cost Clinton the election.

ShyGuy 03-15-2017 08:32 AM

Enjoy...............


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfCCwEf_J5A

deadseal 03-15-2017 08:40 AM

I'm not trying to convince anybody, I don't really care which way you voted and I'll happily tell you to your face what I think unless it's a captain at the start of a 4 day. I do think that the statistical demographics of trump voters says a lot in a scientific non partisan way. I also think that's a funny comment to say that you would vote for Trump regardless of your own self interest just to get back at people that call you deplorable for voting for Trump. Isnt there something about cutting your nose off to spite your face?

Let me ask an honest question to the pilot group that is on topic.

Does anyone reconsider their trump vote now with this?

Shindo 03-15-2017 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by deadseal (Post 2321059)

Does anyone reconsider their trump vote now with this?

nope, Still happy I did.


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