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Originally Posted by Andy (Post 2321047)

But to label all Trump voters as 'racist/sexist white men' or 'deplorables' only makes me want to vote for Trump and ignore all of his flaws.

I personally don't believe all Trump voters are racists, misogynists and xenophobes. To label everyone of them in that way is obviously wrong. But there is one label that universally applies to every Trump voter: Gullible

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Originally Posted by deadseal (Post 2321059)

I'm not trying to convince anybody, I don't really care which way you voted and I'll happily tell you to your face what I think unless it's a captain at the start of a 4 day. I do think that the statistical demographics of trump voters says a lot in a scientific non partisan way. I also think that's a funny comment to say that you would vote for Trump regardless of your own self interest just to get back at people that call you deplorable for voting for Trump. Isnt there something about cutting your nose off to spite your face?

Let me ask an honest question to the pilot group that is on topic.

Does anyone reconsider their trump vote now with this?

Nope, infact I want to place two giant marble busts of Reagan and Trump at the entrance of my driveway.

Still happy I didn't.

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Originally Posted by No Land 3 (Post 2321073)

Nope, infact I want to place two giant marble busts of Reagan and Trump at the entrance of my driveway.

The International Brotherhood Of Pigeons - Local 1123, will thank you!

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Originally Posted by Judge Smails (Post 2321067)

Ah yes, another label. Because 'gullible' is much more acceptable in snowflakeworld than 'deplorable', 'racist', 'misogynist', and 'xenophobe'.

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Originally Posted by Karnak (Post 2321090)

The International Brotherhood Of Pigeons - Local 1123, will thank you!

I dare say that pro labor liberals are still a vast minority in the current pilot pool, yet we all understand the importance of a strong pilot union. Interesting dynamic, wouldn't you say?

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Originally Posted by Route66 (Post 2320901)

A Bill to preserve and protect the free choice of individual employees to form, join, or assist labor organizations, or to refrain from such activities.

Otherwise known as the National Right to Work Bill is in the House and Senate.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-...-bill/785/text
Introduced by Rep. King of Iowa and Rep. How Wilson of SC. 01Feb2017.
Has 22 cosponsors of 219 needed to pass the House.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-...enate-bill/545
Introduced by Sen. Rand Paul 10Mar2017.
Has 22 senators of 51 needed to pass the Senate.

Eliminates paragraph Eleventh of Railway Labor Act for mandatory union dues.

It WILL be going to the Presidents desk, hopefully this year.

For those of you who do not believe your union is worth spit (like the APA or ALPA) you can keep ALL OF YOUR MONEY. These unions have been crapping on the junior people, the Regionals, OR selectively giving greater seniority "payola" to their CHOSEN FEW for many years. Its time for change.

Trash, pure and simple, the "logic" you just put on display.

Unions can collapse if slugs are allowed to not pay their fair share (dues) while the heavy lifting is done by those who pay dues.

How clueless can you be to think the profession is better off once people stop paying dues at their airlines? Seriously, how can you be that clueless?

(Nevermind. Read your last posts, you are a clueless troll who has an agenda.)

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Originally Posted by Andy (Post 2321091)

Ah yes, another label. Because 'gullible' is much more acceptable in snowflakeworld than 'deplorable', 'racist', 'misogynist', and 'xenophobe'.

It may not be acceptable to you, but of those labels it's the most accurate.

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Originally Posted by OneEyedMonster (Post 2321127)

That is exactly right. Because the TRUE definition of "scab" is EXACTLY what the righteous APA/ALPA pilots did to US Airways and TWA pilots.

My agenda is against the discriminatory BEHAVIOR of labor unions against their minorities. The APA stripped me and many other of my seniority if FAVOR OF THEIR MAJORITY. While the physical actions and racial overtones of Jim Crow were certainly much WORSE than that of our cause, the practice by APA and ALPA are of the same discriminatory ilk. And to that I say if your one of them, and you support that action, them you are what the union defines as a "SCAB". PURE AND SIMPLE.

Clueless? Ive been "involved" in union activity for over thirty years in this industry to know more than you!

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Originally Posted by Andy (Post 2321091)

Ah yes, another label. Because 'gullible' is much more acceptable in snowflakeworld than 'deplorable', 'racist', 'misogynist', and 'xenophobe'.

Yes. Labels. Like "scabs", "trolls", etc...