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Duesenflieger 03-25-2017 07:06 AM


Originally Posted by highflyer0685 (Post 2328846)
If they get rid of the 1500 hour rule you can say goodbye to signing bonuses, higher hourly wages, etc at the regional level. Also any hopes of a major pilot shortage that would affect the major/legacy carriers can be kissed goodbye. Are there guys out there who could come in with 250 hours and never bust a checkride and be a great pilot?? Sure there are....but anyone currently at a regional or anyone who has their 1500 hours certainly doesn't want it. Keep us the pilots a commodity and force the regionals to pay us more and compete for our services until we move onto the majors.

Exactly! The whole point of mandating ATP minimums so that one may become an airline pilot is to kill the regionals, or at the very least to elevate starting pay to something more livable. When pay is $17k for someone starting, they are forced to make sacrifices which makes them overwork, or live in conditions such as sleeping in crash pads after a long commute in order to arrive at work on time. Fatigue is a huge issue and is a major contributor to roughly 20% of aviation accidents according to the NTSB! It's no joke. It is good for safety that ATP minimums are required to be hired by an airline because it puts enormous pressure on the regionals which seek to take advantage of the system and pay pilots $10k if they could escape with doing so! The whole point is to avoid altogether another Colgan Air flight 3407!!!

ClickClickBoom 03-25-2017 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by No Land 3 (Post 2327294)
I too am college educated, with a crapload of pre-med college credits. With that said, college and a high gpa cannot replace quality time in seat. The Europeans seam to think so, but they also deep stall Airbuses over the Atlantic.

Sorry, flight time is a composition of more than a few things, flying is just one small component, judgement and decision making skill are just a couple of others. Those deep stall guys weren't exactly inexperienced in aviation, but their inexperience was in just the wrong places. Right after the stall/splash event we did similar training, the process was interesting to say the least.
BTW, this job is a blue collar endeavor, of the last few guys I have flown with were a couple were, H.S. Grads with no college experience, they both were some of the better F/Os I have flown with. If it takes 4 years to be a journeyman heavy equipment operator, it follows that being an airline pilot would take at least the same approx time.

block30 03-25-2017 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by serthwrmtym (Post 2327109)
Except that the 1500 hour rule has nothing to do with safety.

Go tell an insurance company that hours don't matter. You got license X, so good 'nuf.


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