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757Driver 11-10-2008 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by chris1987 (Post 495335)
I think if you saw the attitude and service given you would not want a union.

What a ridiculous thing to say.

Alaska Airlines is one of the most miltant members of the AFA and they deliver a product that's second to none.

Hell, I'll wear an Delta AFA pin if it furthers their cause.

You guys are amazing, its OK for you to be compensated and treated fairly, but not anyone else.

Hypocrites.

chris1987 11-10-2008 11:00 AM

You can put on a dress too.

757Driver 11-10-2008 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by chris1987 (Post 495389)
You can put on a dress too.

Can I borrow something from your extensive wardrobe in a size 7?

Yeah I know childish, but I couldn't resist.

Adolphus Coors 11-10-2008 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by Tomcat (Post 495333)
How do you feel about the pilot group being represented by ALPA?

How do you feel about unskilled labour striking and affecting your family's livelihood?

If they want AFA that is fine that is their right. I think AFA will do more harm then good, but I don't get to vote so who cares.

capncrunch 11-10-2008 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by Adolphus Coors (Post 495401)
How do you feel about unskilled labour striking and affecting your family's livelihood?

Exactly!!!!!!!!!!

Tomcat 11-10-2008 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by Adolphus Coors (Post 495401)
How do you feel about unskilled labour striking and affecting your family's livelihood?

If they want AFA that is fine that is their right. I think AFA will do more harm then good, but I don't get to vote so who cares.

Let's get this straight.... It's okay for you to strike and effect the livelihood of all the employees at a company because you know how to fly an airplane. Well, pull up the ladder, you have yours.

chris1987 11-10-2008 11:30 AM

I don't understand size 7?

DALFA 11-10-2008 11:45 AM

Wow, I am very surprised to say the least. I view the pilot group as an example that by sticking together you get more done, by making sure that the guy next to you has your back. This is something we are missing as now the largest F/A group in the world, I also believe that we are now going to be watched by every other airline in the world and we have an obbligation to lead the way with improvements to our salary and duty rigs. Management keeps getting millions and we got 3% in July after taking a 45% pay cut. Like I said, I don't hold it against any of you...its your choice. But remember, we have a family to feed just like you do...and most of us have college degrees or some other type of post-secondary education. Once again, I am very surprised to hear this...and have to say that I have not had 1 pilot tell me we should not unionize, actually I have seen pilots with AFA pins on their ties that why I asked. Also remember that there are many of you that have a spose, or other family member that is a F/A...


So far we have...1 yes and.....lots of he!! no...

sailingfun 11-10-2008 11:50 AM

DALFA, Keep one thing in mind. What you read on a forum rarely ever reflects the actual sentiment of a group. Forums tend to attract those at extremes. I would wear a AFA pin. I do however have one question? What would you want to improve on your duty rigs? They are already industry leading.

Adolphus Coors 11-10-2008 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by Tomcat (Post 495416)
Let's get this straight.... It's okay for you to strike and effect the livelihood of all the employees at a company because you know how to fly an airplane. Well, pull up the ladder, you have yours.

I never said it was OK for us to strike. I just don't trust unskilled labour to make the same moderate decisions DALPA has made in the past. ALPA is way BIGGER than a pilots ability to strike. ALPA is an association that not only has the pilots best interest in mind but also the passengers. Because the FAA has no checks and balances and its function is to promote and regulate we must have a voice in Washington to prevent business from taking advantage of a very very poor organization. As far as I am concerned the AFA will be nothing more than a dues collecting organization.


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