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+1 Alfaromeo. I'm not as sure though. I'd expect more typos and cigarette burns. I guess spell check helps a lot :)
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 965684)
So ALPA is not telling DAL what routes to fly? That makes your entire statement a joke.
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Originally Posted by ATCsaidDoWhat
(Post 965706)
Who said the Repubs are behind it? The Repubs are trying to kill off the NMB and union rights...
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Originally Posted by ATCsaidDoWhat
(Post 965706)
Who said the Repubs are behind it? The Repubs are trying to kill off the NMB and union rights...
Originally Posted by tsquare
(Post 965745)
Oh good grief... really?
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Originally Posted by alfaromeo
(Post 965718)
This guy is part of a leadership team that failed their pilots miserably and then went about pointing fingers of blame, yes you guessed it's all ALPA's fault. He is good for flamebait on here but not much else.
They got an alter ego foreign base closed and brought over a hundred guys back from furlough. Got the pilots through the company bankruptcy without any concessions in the CBA and kept 12% annual raises throughout it. Got them back stock options and profit sharing that has consistently gone up from 10% in 2005. Their "failure" just got their pilots a 26% raise, 20.1% profit sharing on their 2010 W-2 wages and a reported 11.5 million signing bonus divided among 850 pilots. With growth planned to be 45% in the pilot group in the next 18 months that still won't cover the planned retirements and new 747-8's and two holer's that are coming. And they're paying less in dues. The miserable failure was believing that ALPA National would honor their committment to conclude the merger. Instead, ALPA wasted over a million dollars of dues money for an outside attorney to block it. Yeah...sucks. How's it going for you? |
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The NMB needs to be killed off. There is no organization right now that is doing more to destroy collective bargaining right now than the NMB. They no longer protect union rights and they are no longer mediators. They are acting as judges as to the content of collective bargaining agreements. The NMB can't be killed fast enough. Carl |
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 965678)
The whole thing reeks.
We as pilots really are our own worst enemies. |
Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
(Post 965804)
The NMB needs to be killed off. There is no organization right now that is doing more to destroy collective bargaining right now than the NMB. They no longer protect union rights and they are no longer mediators. They are acting as judges as to the content of collective bargaining agreements.
The NMB can't be killed fast enough. Carl The NMB is out of control. They are dictating our contracts. They might as well dump the pretext of "mediation". Just tell us what terms they will approve and save a lot of time. This business of just "parking" the negotiations for years and years because they think someone is making excessive demands is way beyond the original intent of Congress when they wrote the Railway Labor Act. |
Originally Posted by ATCsaidDoWhat
(Post 965767)
Yeah, must have been terrible.
They got an alter ego foreign base closed and brought over a hundred guys back from furlough. Got the pilots through the company bankruptcy without any concessions in the CBA and kept 12% annual raises throughout it. Got them back stock options and profit sharing that has consistently gone up from 10% in 2005. Their "failure" just got their pilots a 26% raise, 20.1% profit sharing on their 2010 W-2 wages and a reported 11.5 million signing bonus divided among 850 pilots. With growth planned to be 45% in the pilot group in the next 18 months that still won't cover the planned retirements and new 747-8's and two holer's that are coming. And they're paying less in dues. The miserable failure was believing that ALPA National would honor their committment to conclude the merger. Instead, ALPA wasted over a million dollars of dues money for an outside attorney to block it. Yeah...sucks. How's it going for you? |
Originally Posted by Check Essential
(Post 965865)
Carl, you are exactly correct.
The NMB is out of control. They are dictating our contracts. They might as well dump the pretext of "mediation". Just tell us what terms they will approve and save a lot of time. This business of just "parking" the negotiations for years and years because they think someone is making excessive demands is way beyond the original intent of Congress when they wrote the Railway Labor Act. |
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