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BobbyLeeSwagger 06-27-2022 10:30 AM

Let the half wingers vote!
 
We have to live under any approved TA too! We don't have a voice here and it's kinda sucks. There's 2000 of us and I bet most would be a no. I know my class is all against it.

hummingbear 06-27-2022 10:43 AM

Unless I’m mistaken, that itself would require a resolution & a vote which would basically take longer than the voting window of the TA to affect.

BobbyLeeSwagger 06-27-2022 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by hummingbear (Post 3449443)
Unless I’m mistaken, that itself would require a resolution & a vote which would basically take longer than the voting window of the TA to affect.

I know, one can dream

Andy 06-27-2022 10:48 AM

Not to worry. Many of you will get to vote on TA2.

BurritoBeach 06-27-2022 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger (Post 3449447)
I know, one can dream

Hopefully those of us that are eligible will send it down in flames so y'all can rest easy.

iahflyr 06-27-2022 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by Andy (Post 3449449)
Not to worry. Many of you will get to vote on TA2.

Over a year from now… so yes, all of you half wingers on property will be eligible by then.

BobbyLeeSwagger 06-27-2022 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by iahflyr (Post 3449474)
Over a year from now… so yes, all of you half wingers on property will be eligible by then.

Well I'm rooting for you all to send this back. I think with so much hiring, its like 15% of the list that doesnt have a voice. Even for the next one, and hopefully there is a next one, we should let the HWs vote.

GoCats67 06-27-2022 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by iahflyr (Post 3449474)
Over a year from now… so yes, all of you half wingers on property will be eligible by then.


Don't try the Sky is falling / it will take forever tactic!!

The company needs our help desperately. They were able to get this agreed to and are undboutedly praying it passes as they know they have been given an unbelievable bargain basement priced TA. I don't blame them, that is what they should do. I blame our leadership for not recognizing we are selling all our leverage for literal pennies on the dollar of their value!

This TA definitely should be rejected, and the company won't be surprised. Then both sides will be back at the table basically immediately, because we have something they want!!!!!! Their United next plan depends on an improved training environment and more flexible coverage options while they try to catch up.

I for one ain't gonna sell my Porsche for these Yugo prices!!!!

BobbyLeeSwagger 06-27-2022 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by BurritoBeach (Post 3449452)
Hopefully those of us that are eligible will send it down in flames so y'all can rest easy.

Do. It.

We are counting on you guys and gals

SeamusTheHound 06-27-2022 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by GoCats67 (Post 3449533)
Don't try the Sky is falling / it will take forever tactic!!

The company needs our help desperately. They were able to get this agreed to and are undboutedly praying it passes as they know they have been given an unbelievable bargain basement priced TA. I don't blame them, that is what they should do. I blame our leadership for not recognizing we are selling all our leverage for literal pennies on the dollar of their value!

This TA definitely should be rejected, and the company won't be surprised. Then both sides will be back at the table basically immediately, because we have something they want!!!!!! Their United next plan depends on an improved training environment and more flexible coverage options while they try to catch up.

I for one ain't gonna sell my Porsche for these Yugo prices!!!!

Why does the vote on this thing close a mere four days BEFORE UAL announces Q2 earnings??? Wouldn’t it be more prudent to wait until after the earnings report to see how UAL’s pandemic recovery (that we funded) is tracking?


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