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Broncofan 02-20-2017 01:24 PM

FDO question
 
They called me on reserve for a trip the next day that would go into my FDO. I asked if there was anyone else that could do it. They said no. When I checked there were about 4 short calls that would have worked, so I called back saying there were other people that could do it. They said that they won't take anyone off short call to keep my FDO. Anyone know if that's legal per the contract and point me in the right direction?

ugleeual 02-20-2017 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by Broncofan (Post 2305479)
They called me on reserve for a trip the next day that would go into my FDO. I asked if there was anyone else that could do it. They said no. When I checked there were about 4 short calls that would have worked, so I called back saying there were other people that could do it. They said that they won't take anyone off short call to keep my FDO. Anyone know if that's legal per the contract and point me in the right direction?

As long as your trip starts on a LSR and goes into a FDO and/or RDO its legit... they don't have to pull a SC off if you can fit the bill. If your concerned file a PDR and they will respond.

LeeFXDWG 02-20-2017 06:22 PM

Yes it's legal. Except for a few specific scenarios where the company has to choose one type of reserve over another (not applicable to your example), the company has complete discretion on whether an assignment shall be made to LSR, SC or FSB reserve if all three types are legal to receive it.

See 20-K-3-a and 20-I-6.

Lee

svergin 02-20-2017 06:58 PM


Originally Posted by Broncofan (Post 2305479)
They called me on reserve for a trip the next day that would go into my FDO. I asked if there was anyone else that could do it. They said no. When I checked there were about 4 short calls that would have worked, so I called back saying there were other people that could do it. They said that they won't take anyone off short call to keep my FDO. Anyone know if that's legal per the contract and point me in the right direction?

sorry but 81% of the pilot group chose a 16% pay raise and kicked the can of "reserve improvements" down the road a few years. By the time we get reserve fixed, you probably won't be on it.

Broncofan 02-20-2017 07:12 PM

Hey thanks for your replies. I thought there had to be absolutly no option but i guess thats not the case.. thanks again!

ugleeual 02-21-2017 06:47 AM


Originally Posted by svergin (Post 2305678)
sorry but 81% of the pilot group chose a 16% pay raise and kicked the can of "reserve improvements" down the road a few years. By the time we get reserve fixed, you probably won't be on it.

I would not bet on any reserve improvements happening anytime soon... it has never been a priority at UAL/CAL. That 16% pay raise was the best decision this pilot group has made in a very long time.

APC225 02-21-2017 07:04 AM


Originally Posted by ugleeual (Post 2305899)
I would not bet on any reserve improvements happening anytime soon... it has never been a priority at UAL/CAL. That 16% pay raise was the best decision this pilot group has made in a very long time.

If right to work and NAI are successful, these may be the highest we'll ever see. A couple more annual bumps remaining then it could over.

APC225 02-21-2017 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by APC225 (Post 2305913)
If right to work and NAI are successful, these may be the highest we'll ever see. A couple more annual bumps remaining then it could over.

My apologies for being so dark. I just saw "Manchester by the Sea." I'll refrain from further posting until tomorrow after I've watched "Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants."

bigfatdaddy 02-21-2017 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by apc225 (Post 2305956)
my apologies for being so dark. I just saw "manchester by the sea." i'll refrain from further posting until tomorrow after i've watched "sisterhood of the traveling pants."

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DG1000 02-21-2017 03:05 PM

Think of short call as essentially the same as being assigned a trip. They're not pulling someone off it if they can find anyone else to cover a trip. This includes paying someone premium in order to crew it. They treat us short call folks like we are gold. Very reluctant to pull us off it unless they have no other choice.

Unfortunately that means they often won't allow us to go unreachable for a brief period (i.e. to commute home) even if we are no longer "useable" to be assigned a trip in that window. 🙄
But that's another thread...


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