Europe long layover question
 

I'm looking to bid the 75/76 equipment sometime this summer and I've been checking the bid packages to understand the types of trips that are part of that operation (never been int'l - A320 and 737 only). When there are trips that have 74+ hours in places like AMS, CDG, LHR, etc..., I assume you are a short call reserve over there if needed during that time, but what are the restrictions on your availability/reporting requirements? i.e. How far can you get from the hotel during that longer layover?

Once the trip is assigned it's yours til completion. You are not required to be phone available during the trip. You can go anywhere you want on a long layover. It's your responsibility to be in position for departure.

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Short Call on a long layover?! That's funny. There's no requirement to stay in the company provided hotel much less answer the phone. Just ask the guys who fly HKG.

If you do answer the phone, just let em know it's too bad they didn't call before you started drinking.

Ok thanks for the info.

In that case, what would be the purpose of having those longer layovers -- when most of those trips are usually 24hrs in the hotel.

They want the crew acclimated so they don't have to augment it.

Wouldn't 36hrs free of duty be legal to acclimate to a new theater?

many times the longer layovers in Europe are due to limited service (not 7x a week) or a holiday period where the flights are reduced. The longer layovers in Asia are normally due to FAR rest requirements and augmentation as listed above.

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The long layover isn't good for anyone, the company included. I'll bet the pairings you're looking at don't involve daily service to the layover city.

SFO-SIN is about the only layover that I can think of with an extended FRMS/FAA mandated duration. Any others?

Yes, hence the four day trip instead of three.

Those trips with the long layovers are due to Wintertime reduction in days of the week for service.

When I was on the 67 a couple of winters ago, the Sunday night ORD-MUC and ORD-BRU trips were 6 days for most of January, all of February and most of March. The ORD-MUC and ORD-BRU flight didn't operate on Mon, Tues, or Wed. So, you flew over on Sunday (landed Monday morning Germany or Belgium time) and then Flew back on Friday (the plane came in on the Thursday night ORD departure).

At the same time there were other 6 day trips that went ORD-LHR-EWR-LHR-ORD. They all paid the same (thanks to trip rig).

Guess which trips went senior!!! (hint, not the one with 4 crossings)