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pokey9554 03-18-2017 05:15 PM

....or read the instruction manual. I will read it to anyone junior to me for $3 and two beers.

DashTrash 03-18-2017 07:09 PM

We are just reshuffling the RJ system. The Company cannot get any more 76 seat RJs unless they buy some SNB jets.

svergin 03-18-2017 09:18 PM


Originally Posted by awax (Post 2323613)
I'm not sure if you're saying that you're too dumb to figure out PBS, or too cheap to pay one of several available services to bid for you each month.

Why pay again for PBS? We already "pay" since we could have had a better PBS, but we got something in the contract to keep this POS. Having to "pay" again for someone to help sharp shoot the system isn't how it should work.

Monkeyfly 03-18-2017 10:15 PM


Originally Posted by svergin (Post 2323906)
Why pay again for PBS? We already "pay" since we could have had a better PBS, but we got something in the contract to keep this POS. Having to "pay" again for someone to help sharp shoot the system isn't how it should work.

Right on.

A software system that requires a 24hr hotline is a fail. And unacceptable.

Yak02 03-18-2017 10:43 PM

No, someone that uses a 24 hour hotline is a failure.:confused:

awax 03-19-2017 02:31 AM


Originally Posted by svergin (Post 2323906)
Why pay again for PBS? We already "pay" since we could have had a better PBS, but we got something in the contract to keep this POS. Having to "pay" again for someone to help sharp shoot the system isn't how it should work.

The other option is read the PBS manual, it's all in there.

oldmako 03-19-2017 06:24 AM

The fact that it requires a thick manual certainly says something negative about the systems opacity and gymnastics required to successfully use the program. After all, we live in a time when smart phone apps are immediately intuitive and require minimal input. Yet many of them contain complex programs. Our previous (also crappy PBS) system was much easier to use and didn't require either a hotline or Prefbid.

To think that we used to bid lines of flying AND enjoy both the big dump and vacation override! I'd wager that the average line pilot now flies 20-24 more days per year, at least. What else can we give away for pennies on the dollar?

Don't like it? Read the manual.
Don't like it? Don't be junior on your equipment.
Don't like it? Quit.

What great solutions.

PA Slammer 03-19-2017 07:32 AM

I agree, our time reading manuals should be about flight manuals... not bidding manuals.

El10 03-19-2017 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by PA Slammer (Post 2324073)
I agree, our time reading manuals should be about flight manuals... not bidding manuals.

How about reading the contract, when do you do that?

You want a simpler PBS you will get less flexibility. It is your quality of life that you leave on the table by not taking the the time to learn something as important as your schedule. Hard to justify you want the results sooner because it affects your quality of life, yet you will not use the resources to learn the system to improve your quality of work/life.

You have all kinds of tools available to get help, if you want it.

pokey9554 03-19-2017 08:01 AM


Originally Posted by oldmako (Post 2324018)

Don't like it? Read the manual.
Don't like it? Don't be junior on your equipment.
Don't like it? Quit.

What great solutions.

1. Can only help you.
2. Is mostly out of your control.
3. Doesn't help you.

Like many things in life, you get out of it what you put in.

El10 nailed it.


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