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baseball 03-17-2017 05:04 PM

PBS
 
I saw the note about PBS Captain award delay.

What exactly was the issue with PBS this month?

APC225 03-17-2017 05:06 PM

"catastrophic failure" -- MEC blastmail

Had to be rerun.

baseball 03-17-2017 07:26 PM

I don't get it.

How can there be a catastrophic failure? Did we get new software?

Did the staffing formula (if one really exists) need to be re-done?

Was there too much flying and not enough pilots?

I think more info would be great.

I really don't trust PBS, or those that "tweek" it behind the scenes. it's not transparent enough for the pilots to monitor.

BMEP100 03-17-2017 07:47 PM

Just pulled mine up and it is identical to the first one.

APC225 03-17-2017 08:01 PM

"The error involved is the new pilot selectable “credit range” command. In certain specific selected ranges, the error allowed lines to be built and published outside the UPA 5-B-1 line credit ranges, affecting the accuracy of the overall solution. Therefore, these awards were neither accurate nor in compliance with the UPA and UPA section 20-C-1 had to be invoked. The error was not caused by the change in the build range in widebody Categories."

Dave Fitzgerald 03-18-2017 01:56 AM

My first and second run lines are different. Not sure how that came to be. I got the days off I asked for on the first, but not the second. Not sure how that happens....

krudawg 03-18-2017 05:54 AM


Originally Posted by baseball (Post 2323026)
I saw the note about PBS Captain award delay.

What exactly was the issue with PBS this month?

Mine didn't change either. I had 21 days vacation and I thought I'd get a line instead of reserve like I normally get. In the past, when I had 14 days of vacation, I was given a line but I guess they don't automatically do that if you exceed 14 days

Monkeyfly 03-18-2017 12:50 PM

If you agree that having your schedule only 11 days from the start of the next bid month, or that this PBS software is needlessly complicated, unacceptable at producing the lines that reflect your seniority or produce an undue burden on your time and family:

Please join my in filing PDRs, requesting help from the union to improve our quality of life.

:mad:

baseball 03-18-2017 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by Monkeyfly (Post 2323572)
Please join my in filing PDRs, requesting help from the union to improve our quality of life.

:mad:

PBS is BS. It's great for computer geeks. it's neat-o for the junior who can figure out how to make lemonade out of lemons. it reduces over-all pilot bodies on property and at the end of the day, it's just a scheduling tool for the company to put a butt in the seat.

Filing of PDR's wont' work. As long as ALPA LOVES pbs and they staff the help department with gung-ho computer code-loving - management friendly helpers it ain't going anywhere.

When PBS starts to crash hard in November and December and it affects the ALPA reps, then you might get some attention. it crashed 4 times at Continental, and then the CEO Larry Kellner was ready to throw in the towel and give us our 750 million dollar concession back, but hey count on the weak-knee'd Cleveland and Guam reps to cry like babies and throw the company another pitch. Should have been a four pitch walk, instead we swing 3 and 0 and end up flying out.

awax 03-18-2017 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by baseball (Post 2323592)
PBS is BS. It's great for computer geeks. it's neat-o for the junior who can figure out how to make lemonade out of lemons. it reduces over-all pilot bodies on property and at the end of the day, it's just a scheduling tool for the company to put a butt in the seat.

Filing of PDR's wont' work. As long as ALPA LOVES pbs and they staff the help department with gung-ho computer code-loving - management friendly helpers it ain't going anywhere.

When PBS starts to crash hard in November and December and it affects the ALPA reps, then you might get some attention. it crashed 4 times at Continental, and then the CEO Larry Kellner was ready to throw in the towel and give us our 750 million dollar concession back, but hey count on the weak-knee'd Cleveland and Guam reps to cry like babies and throw the company another pitch. Should have been a four pitch walk, instead we swing 3 and 0 and end up flying out.

I'm not sure if you're saying that you're too dumb to figure out PBS, or too cheap to pay one of several available services to bid for you each month.


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