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awax 04-07-2017 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by pilotgolfer (Post 2338153)
I'm a local at the bottom of the WB totem pole. I'm okay with sitting at home with an occasional inconvenience of having to go to London for the day.

What's that? You're junior and enjoy of high quality of life in domicile? Or better yet, senior and bid reserve to enjoy a high quality lifestyle in a small international base. Been there done that, I get it.

That's my point, I don't think guys will bid the base for the money, but I'd agree that being at home a lot offers some great intangible value.

The bases that offer high quality schedules AND high pay are becoming few and far between. I'm certain that IAD 787 will offer opportunity for all who want it, but I don't see the flying offing both pay AND QOL to all the pilots in BES compared to other options.

I hope you stay senior enough to bid reserve!

BobWiley 04-07-2017 12:41 PM

Any word from what HA said at the Dulles town hall meeting?

Scrappy 04-07-2017 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by oldmako (Post 2338156)
Plus, moving 787 flying to DC ought to remove all the recent uncertainty about the long term viability of Dulles. Well, at least until the next team takes the reigns.

You just met the next team. My money is on Kirby as the new CEO in the next 12-18 months give or take.

pilotgolfer 04-07-2017 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by Scrappy (Post 2338395)
You just met the next team. My money is on Kirby as the new CEO in the next 12-18 months give or take.

Kirby's first move will be to require Business Class passengers to fill out the Form 0-96 after each meal.

oldmako 04-07-2017 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by Scrappy (Post 2338395)
You just met the next team. My money is on Kirby as the new CEO in the next 12-18 months give or take.

Astonishing clairvoyance.

pilotgolfer 04-07-2017 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by oldmako (Post 2338431)
Astonishing clairvoyance.

Scrappy prefers to be called Captain Obvious.

awax 04-07-2017 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by oldmako (Post 2338431)
Astonishing clairvoyance.

Seriously, I thought everyone already had that memo.

https://i.imgflip.com/1mw5cd.jpg

Scrappy 04-07-2017 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by awax (Post 2338495)
Seriously, I thought everyone already had that memo.

https://i.imgflip.com/1mw5cd.jpg

I'm chuckling! That was good.

Probe 04-08-2017 03:05 AM

787 to IAD looks like a non-event. Same flying, slightly different mix of aircraft. It will be staffed with mostly the same pilots. As long as Manpower doesn't screw the pooch too bad on the transition, no big deal.
Closing the IAH 787 is a bit expensive, but so was a bunch of non-productive trips after LOS went away. Some flying will leave the base as they were doing international trips out of other bases. IAH is still a huge base, with other opportunities for most of the bumped pilots.

Even closing the SFO 400 base doesn't change much. All the flying is still there, on aircraft that pay the same. The new airframes will be much more reliable. Still sad I never bid it.

Other than losing some spots in IAH, really kind of a wash, unless Manpower screws up. Or more likely, changes their mind halfway through the process.

My money is on the latter.

fireman0174 04-08-2017 03:29 AM


Originally Posted by awax (Post 2338146)

Closing and opening a BES is expensive and the company wouldn't do it unless there were anticipated long term savings. I think the argument here is that from IAD, a full month of flying for lines holders can be built at pretty darn close to guarantee for the majority of the pilots.

BES stands for what? [retired guy]


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