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Originally Posted by Grumble
(Post 2356372)
Can't say I've ever seen that, on any but a few odd balls being based there and nothing but a handful of times. What stood out were those gawdawful embroidered wings on shirts, the pinnacle of cheap.
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
(Post 2356371)
You getting ready for all those new hires headed your way? I hope none of them are Skywest.....:eek:
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Originally Posted by ReadyRsv
(Post 2355297)
Strangely, many of the repeat customers I have on reserve seem to wear legacy wings.
They are on reserve. I am on reserve too. Not wearing any "legacy wings." I keep those in a desk drawer. Lots of pilots on reserve again who haven't been on reserve since they were a new hire. We had a merger. I think it was in the newspapers. Time to get over the "legacy this and that." I doubt seriously if the suits up there in Chicago or TK are wearing any legacy bell-bottoms or polyester leisure suits because they want to reminisce about the past. We pilots tend to take this stuff way too seriously. We didn't get a vote on weather or not to merge. So who cares? It's a uniform. I don't control what color the paint job is on the jet and I don't control what uniform I get issued. I do care if the paychecks cash and if the cash is green. Thank God not getting paid in Russian Rubles. Disco balls and bee-gees music for everyone. |
Originally Posted by Otters
(Post 2353601)
a huge shout out to Captain Don Dobias, UAL ALPA Training Committee Chairman. Don worked relentlessly behind the scenes to force the company into reviewing its decision. The thankless work often going unnoticed behind the scenes.
But, it should not have been that hard. The DEN TK people are super-hard-headed. Just hard to communicate with. I had to threaten to fly around the Thompson Airways B757 MEL along with the Delta MEL because they wouldn't put it on the IPAD. Had to file numerous stupid PDR's and lots of silly emails to get them to see the light that an electronic log book has nothing to do with actually being able to read and reference the aircraft MEL. In more than one simulator session I just handed the IPad to the check airman and said "here you go, you figure it out." They were trying to force us to use the Ipad to run complex emergency checklists. You can't even save book marks from update to update. You can't high-light, mark pages, etc. Once a new update comes out to the checklist or normal and abnormals, what you thought you knew, and where you thought it was - was gone. The Ipad is not the place for this kind of stuff, especially tired, and blurry-eyed in the middle of the night, or in the weather. Or, when you drop your Ipad and it is frozen up and locked you out after you put in the wrong six digit code for the 5th time. The beauty of the QRH is it's simple and it always works. |
Originally Posted by Lerxst
(Post 2355418)
Was in the IAH Chief's office yesterday having a nice chat. She has some very nice Tulip'd memorabilia.
Ah, yesterday............. Yesterday all my troubles seemed so far away. Now it looks as though they're here to stay. Oh, I believe in yesterday. Suddenly I'm not half the man I used to be. There's a shadow hanging over me. Oh, yesterday came suddenly. Why she had to go, I don't know, she wouldn't say. I said something wrong, now I long for yesterday. Yesterday love was such an easy game to play. Now I need a place to hide away. Oh, I believe in yesterday. |
Originally Posted by baseball
(Post 2357740)
I see.
They are on reserve. I am on reserve too. Not wearing any "legacy wings." I keep those in a desk drawer. Lots of pilots on reserve again who haven't been on reserve since they were a new hire. We had a merger. I think it was in the newspapers. Time to get over the "legacy this and that." I doubt seriously if the suits up there in Chicago or TK are wearing any legacy bell-bottoms or polyester leisure suits because they want to reminisce about the past. We pilots tend to take this stuff way too seriously. We didn't get a vote on weather or not to merge. So who cares? It's a uniform. I don't control what color the paint job is on the jet and I don't control what uniform I get issued. I do care if the paychecks cash and if the cash is green. Thank God not getting paid in Russian Rubles. Disco balls and bee-gees music for everyone. |
Originally Posted by baseball
(Post 2357741)
I would second that.
But, it should not have been that hard. The DEN TK people are super-hard-headed. Just hard to communicate with. I had to threaten to fly around the Thompson Airways B757 MEL along with the Delta MEL because they wouldn't put it on the IPAD. Had to file numerous stupid PDR's and lots of silly emails to get them to see the light that an electronic log book has nothing to do with actually being able to read and reference the aircraft MEL. In more than one simulator session I just handed the IPad to the check airman and said "here you go, you figure it out." They were trying to force us to use the Ipad to run complex emergency checklists. You can't even save book marks from update to update. You can't high-light, mark pages, etc. Once a new update comes out to the checklist or normal and abnormals, what you thought you knew, and where you thought it was - was gone. The Ipad is not the place for this kind of stuff, especially tired, and blurry-eyed in the middle of the night, or in the weather. Or, when you drop your Ipad and it is frozen up and locked you out after you put in the wrong six digit code for the 5th time. The beauty of the QRH is it's simple and it always works. |
Originally Posted by baseball
(Post 2357740)
I see.
They are on reserve. I am on reserve too. Not wearing any "legacy wings." I keep those in a desk drawer. Lots of pilots on reserve again who haven't been on reserve since they were a new hire. We had a merger. I think it was in the newspapers. Time to get over the "legacy this and that." I doubt seriously if the suits up there in Chicago or TK are wearing any legacy bell-bottoms or polyester leisure suits because they want to reminisce about the past. We pilots tend to take this stuff way too seriously. We didn't get a vote on weather or not to merge. So who cares? It's a uniform. I don't control what color the paint job is on the jet and I don't control what uniform I get issued. I do care if the paychecks cash and if the cash is green. Thank God not getting paid in Russian Rubles. Disco balls and bee-gees music for everyone. |
Originally Posted by ReadyRsv
(Post 2357996)
I meant to say lots of the bid avoid captains I fly with wear the legacy wings. As in. The odd ones.
Here's my big take-away. If you are Legacy UAL, great. Put your wings in the desk drawer or make a cool shadow box and long for the glory days. If you are a legacy CAL pilot, fantastic. Put your wings on the shelf, or frame them and make a cool momento box. Same goes for Eastern and Pan Am. We have a few of them here as well. All that I have met from those two legacies are super to fly with. Very enjoyable and offer a great perspective. We will know that our merger is complete when two things happen: 1. We no longer work for CAL UAL Holdings, and 2. We wear our uniform proudly and no longer refer to legacy this, or legacy that. When the two things above happen, I think it's advantage pilot group. It's hard for management to push around a unified pilot group. |
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