Fleet plan
07-02-2017 | 07:58 AM
#31
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Im not wishing for it, just watching as an interested party since im a CO-UAL aircraft mech at IAH.
I'd call it wishful thinking on your part. If you stop to analyze what the DOT would make the combined carrier liquidate (JFK, BOS) then where's the value? Sure, we'd all LOVE to see any Florida base become a part of the system, but there can't be enough there to make opening up NYC and Boston to the other airlines & make it worth it. Sure, I'd love to see us have all those nice AirBi that you all have, but I also loathe the idea of another merger. Realistically I see Spirit as a better candidate. It kills a major thorn in our side, and gives us lots of AirBi with the V2500 engines that we can re-configure and re-deploy.
07-02-2017 | 06:59 PM
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Good to have you here J. Nice to have other perspectives besides just pilots.
I think chalupa is right though with respect to the anti trust aspect. With jet blue having a hub at jfk, the Justice department would require so much route divestment that there'd be nothing left to merge with.
What's your feeling about us going from 10 banks to 8 at IAH? Sounds like we'll end up with fewer flights but more connections?
I think chalupa is right though with respect to the anti trust aspect. With jet blue having a hub at jfk, the Justice department would require so much route divestment that there'd be nothing left to merge with.
What's your feeling about us going from 10 banks to 8 at IAH? Sounds like we'll end up with fewer flights but more connections?
07-03-2017 | 05:47 AM
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Good to have you here J. Nice to have other perspectives besides just pilots.
I think chalupa is right though with respect to the anti trust aspect. With jet blue having a hub at jfk, the Justice department would require so much route divestment that there'd be nothing left to merge with.
What's your feeling about us going from 10 banks to 8 at IAH? Sounds like we'll end up with fewer flights but more connections?
I think chalupa is right though with respect to the anti trust aspect. With jet blue having a hub at jfk, the Justice department would require so much route divestment that there'd be nothing left to merge with.
What's your feeling about us going from 10 banks to 8 at IAH? Sounds like we'll end up with fewer flights but more connections?
07-03-2017 | 06:32 AM
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I think you're right about Spirit being a more realistic bite, but then I think about the next move. If we were to get Spirit, then AA and DL would look to pick up a mid major too. If WE can't get B6 because we are in EWR and they are in JFK, how can AA or DL justify taking B6? They both already have big JFK and BOS bases, and AA also has MIA. B6 is by far the biggest mid-major. DL has a thousand more pilots than us. AA has two thousand. B6 might be a better fit in terms of competition, with WN, but then the all-737 fleet plan goes toes up for most of the decade.
If there is further consolidation, unless B6 is a buyer (Frontier, Allegiant, Alaska!?!), UA merging with B6 is the most apt combination in terms of network synergies and the least likely to draw the attention of anti-trust regulators in the DOT.
Assuming that the Trump Administration has even nominated someone for that job.
07-03-2017 | 12:38 PM
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I think you're right about Spirit being a more realistic bite, but then I think about the next move. If we were to get Spirit, then AA and DL would look to pick up a mid major too. If WE can't get B6 because we are in EWR and they are in JFK, how can AA or DL justify taking B6? They both already have big JFK and BOS bases, and AA also has MIA. B6 is by far the biggest mid-major. DL has a thousand more pilots than us. AA has two thousand. B6 might be a better fit in terms of competition, with WN, but then the all-737 fleet plan goes toes up for most of the decade.
If there is further consolidation, unless B6 is a buyer (Frontier, Allegiant, Alaska!?!), UA merging with B6 is the most apt combination in terms of network synergies and the least likely to draw the attention of anti-trust regulators in the DOT.
Assuming that the Trump Administration has even nominated someone for that job.
If there is further consolidation, unless B6 is a buyer (Frontier, Allegiant, Alaska!?!), UA merging with B6 is the most apt combination in terms of network synergies and the least likely to draw the attention of anti-trust regulators in the DOT.
Assuming that the Trump Administration has even nominated someone for that job.
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