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AllenAllert 10-15-2017 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by JoePatroni (Post 2447687)
It wasn't 9/11 that precipitated the merger with ALPA movement, it was the "almost" merger with Delta that got the wheels turning. The sentiment at the time was, it looked like there was going to be mergers on the horizon and it would be much better to be an ALPA carrier than a non-ALPA carrier when they happened. The rest of that post is factual as I remember it.


Originally Posted by baseball (Post 2447343)
1. ALPA came crawling to the IACP begging for certification as the CAL bargaining unit. IACP was content to be independent.


Joe, giving your post above, how can BB’s post be factually correct. There is far more shinola than fact.

UAL T38 Phlyer 10-15-2017 01:14 PM

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@$&#%>!!!!

I tried to make it funny, but no one listens.

Talk abouts bids. Not about scab bids.

Talk about bids resulting from a rumored acquisition of airplanes.

Any further scab discussion on this thread will be deleted. But for those who can't stop, I am creating a special "Everything about Scabs!!" thread.

You can argue and debate there until the last scab is gone.

fanaticalflyer 10-15-2017 04:46 PM


Originally Posted by UAL T38 Phlyer (Post 2447707)
@$&#%>!!!!

I tried to make it funny, but no one listens.

Talk abouts bids. Not about scab bids.

Talk about bids resulting from a rumored acquisition of airplanes.

Any further scab discussion on this thread will be deleted. But for those who can't stop, I am creating a special "Everything about Scabs!!" thread.

You can argue and debate there until the last scab is gone.


Couldn't agree more. This has gotten out of hand. I like to know the history as well as all new-hires should understand the history of scabs, but to inundate every damn thread with the same idiots over and over, is beyond ridiculous. It eventually turns everyone off from any productive discussion or disclosure of scab info. I now, don't give a rat's @ss about any past actions of scabs because of the same knuckleheads that can't quit intruding on every single thread. Where are the fn moderators to put a stop to this earlier.

Airhoss 10-15-2017 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by fanaticalflyer (Post 2447779)
Couldn't agree more. This has gotten out of hand. I like to know the history as well as all new-hires should understand the history of scabs, but to inundate every damn thread with the same idiots over and over, is beyond ridiculous. It eventually turns everyone off from any productive discussion or disclosure of scab info. I now, don't give a rat's @ss about any past actions of scabs because of the same knuckleheads that can't quit intruding on every single thread. Where are the fn moderators to put a stop to this earlier.

Interesting ^^^ What does this have to do with "bids"?

In any case what are your predictions on the next vacancy bid? What and when?

GoCats67 10-15-2017 07:50 PM


Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 2447832)
Interesting ^^^ What does this have to do with "bids"?

In any case what are your predictions on the next vacancy bid? What and when?

It will come out tomorrow and it is going to be Yuuuge!

fanaticalflyer 10-15-2017 08:33 PM


Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 2447832)
Interesting ^^^ What does this have to do with "bids"?

In any case what are your predictions on the next vacancy bid? What and when?

Are you clueless?! That was my point. Did you see all the previous posts that were 90% spent on SCAB arguments and L-CAL vs L-UAL talk on who did what concerning these scabs? Maybe understand why something was written by looking at the posts previous to it. You just added to the idiocy. Now back to the original thread.

EjetTaxi 10-15-2017 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by GoCats67 (Post 2447835)
It will come out tomorrow and it is going to be Yuuuge!

I hope so...

awax 10-15-2017 11:31 PM


Originally Posted by UAL T38 Phlyer (Post 2447707)
@$&#%>!!!!

I tried to make it funny, but no one listens.

Talk abouts bids. Not about scab bids.

Talk about bids resulting from a rumored acquisition of airplanes.

Any further scab discussion on this thread will be deleted. But for those who can't stop, I am creating a special "Everything about Scabs!!" thread.

You can argue and debate there until the last scab is gone.


Right, it’s about what you want, not what the community has on it’s mind. The TOS doesn’t ban thread drifts and with no real participation from the owners of the site, it appears that you get to play whack-a-mole at will. I suppose as long as users talk about what you want to talk about, everything is cool.

baseball 10-16-2017 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by cadetdrivr (Post 2447647)
Um, not quite.

Althought I'm not nearly familiar enough with the internal IACP history to reasonably judge everything mentioned, it's a HUGE red flag when something as significant as this on the timeline is misrepresented.

IACP and ALPA merged prior to 9/11. (source)

Correct. My bad. The merger of IACP and ALPA was done first. I think about 6 months. At the time the consolidation movement was the catalyst. However, after 9-11 that catalyst turned into big time leverage.

I see allot of upside into the fish swimming together in a bigger school. Makes for a more powerful bargaining unit.

baseball 10-16-2017 07:22 AM


Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 2447832)
Interesting ^^^ What does this have to do with "bids"?

In any case what are your predictions on the next vacancy bid? What and when?

You're the guy who knows more about these bids than anyone else. I would defer to you on this..... What say you? You predict and I will put that prediction in the bank.


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