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Old 09-26-2017 | 09:53 AM
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37 777 CAs
Opening DEN 756

Nice to see that many widebody CA slots after all the displacements have settled.

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Old 09-26-2017 | 06:26 PM
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Yep... healthy amount of backfills will be generated also.
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Old 09-27-2017 | 11:09 AM
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1st snapshot out. TONS of backfills!

DEN Guppy CA backfills senior to the 756 CAs.
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Old 09-27-2017 | 11:15 AM
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Lot of unfilled 73 FO spots in SFO and LAX, don't see that changing.... perhaps a new hire class sooner than expected???
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Old 09-27-2017 | 11:22 AM
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Never would have expected to see a 777 CA vacancy unfilled anywhere, but looks like there is one in IAH.
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Old 09-27-2017 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by EMB_Driver2002
Never would have expected to see a 777 CA vacancy unfilled anywhere, but looks like there is one in IAH.
It's a typo.
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Old 09-27-2017 | 11:38 AM
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How do the SUP and LTA guys factor in to the equation? I know some are instructors with their paper bids and other management types that don't bid a line. So are they counted? i.e. current bid shows 6 backfills for 737 FO but 2 of those are SUP. Does that mean they will backfill an additional 2 people that aren't on this snapshot?
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Old 09-27-2017 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by MiLa
How do the SUP and LTA guys factor in to the equation? I know some are instructors with their paper bids and other management types that don't bid a line. So are they counted? i.e. current bid shows 6 backfills for 737 FO but 2 of those are SUP. Does that mean they will backfill an additional 2 people that aren't on this snapshot?
The SUPs and LTAs are not counted in the awards. In your example (DEN 737 FO) it shows "6 awards" but there are 8 people listed. 2 being SUP.

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Old 09-27-2017 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by VnavPath
Lot of unfilled 73 FO spots in SFO and LAX, don't see that changing.... perhaps a new hire class sooner than expected???
The only reason they're published in the vacancy is to create slots for new-hires. They can only put new-hires into vacancies that have gone unfilled.
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Old 09-27-2017 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Larry in TN
The only reason they're published in the vacancy is to create slots for new-hires. They can only put new-hires into vacancies that have gone unfilled.
I am hopeful that you are correct. Based on the contract language:

8-C-8 Bulletined but unfilled First Officer vacancies and secondary vacancies may be used by the Company for the assignment of new hire pilots. This Section 8-C-8 shall not be applicable while any furloughed Pilot has not been offered recall.

8-F-3-d In the event a vacancy is not filled within three (3) months of the date the award bulletin was issued, the vacancy shall be cancelled.


This vacancy will likely get its' final posted on the 6th or 7th of October, so that would mean that they would have to have a new hire class by the 6th or 7th of January in order to use any unfilled vacancies from this bid.
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