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Old 10-09-2017 | 10:35 AM
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Right! Oh no 757 bids.................


Originally Posted by Monkeyfly
Turned out to be pretty good size. About 300 awards. With all the backfills, some people are getting a surprise today.
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Old 10-09-2017 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by webecheck
LOL. You're smoking crack dude. Usually I enjoy your posts but prep yourself for the flames inbound. Furthermore, there is no convo about forgiveness to be had until the seniority gained from scabbing is given back.
How does a scab gain seniority? (Honest question I don’t know)
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Old 10-09-2017 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by C130driver
How does a scab gain seniority? (Honest question I don’t know)
Wait for an opportunity to steal it from someone else.
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Old 10-10-2017 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by C130driver
How does a scab gain seniority? (Honest question I don’t know)
Gained may be the wrong discription - it’s more like acquired/stolen. He’s probable talking about the CAL 83’ strike and a number of scabs were hired( SCABBED ) and maintained that seniority after the striking pilots returned later on.

There was also a reversal of seniority between the 570/539 groups after the 85’ strike and that seniority list was upheld after a couple of appeals and laws suits by the “fleet quals” and some among the 539 failed.
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Old 10-10-2017 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by AllenAllert
Gained may be the wrong discription - it’s more like acquired/stolen. He’s probable talking about the CAL 83’ strike and a number of scabs were hired( SCABBED ) and maintained that seniority after the striking pilots returned later on.

There was also a reversal of seniority between the 570/539 groups after the 85’ strike and that seniority list was upheld after a couple of appeals and laws suits by the “fleet quals” and some among the 539 failed.
Scabs aren't hired, hence why they had to Scab to begin with. Otherwise, right on.
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Old 10-10-2017 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
Scabs aren't hired, hence why they had to Scab to begin with. Otherwise, right on.
All scabs certainly are hired. They didn’t just show up in a cockpit. They had to be sourced by a managment that wanted them. Either via current pilots crossing a picket line, or hiring them off the street.

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Old 10-10-2017 | 01:48 PM
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And, let's not forget, they had to apply to an airline that was approaching extremis WRT their pilots.

Hell yes they were hired.
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Old 10-10-2017 | 03:12 PM
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If they were hireable, they would've been.
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Old 10-10-2017 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by AllenAllert
Gained may be the wrong discription - it’s more like acquired/stolen. He’s probable talking about the CAL 83’ strike and a number of scabs were hired( SCABBED ) and maintained that seniority after the striking pilots returned later on.

There was also a reversal of seniority between the 570/539 groups after the 85’ strike and that seniority list was upheld after a couple of appeals and laws suits by the “fleet quals” and some among the 539 failed.
Technically you're incorrect about the CAL strike. The returning strikers were option 1 pilots who returned to their pre strike seniority number ahead of any scabs hired after 83. There was no loss of seniority whatsoever with the CAL strikers even among the old CAL pilots who scabbed.

I know that isn't a popular sound bite but it's true. My uncle was an option 1 full term striker before any one starts throwing accusations around.

He had some interesting observations after retuning which will probably cause some consternation on here.
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Old 10-10-2017 | 07:12 PM
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Thread has moved on somewhat from Joe's post earlier, but that's never stopped me before.

I had no skin in the game and was a child during both strikes. Not an airline family nor really knew any pilots.

Much later, one quote from a former co-worker at my old regional did hit home, however. He was asked a question by someone that was along these lines: "You were 8 years old. What's it matter? Where were you during the strike?"

His answer was basically, "Watching my father and my family lose everything."
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