Originally Posted by floyd
(Post 2455303)
you should go to the ualpilots forum. Accurate information that isn't anonymous.
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Originally Posted by Flyingphi
(Post 2454647)
I could be completely off my rocker here...but what if the scope the company wants is additional 76 sweaters in exchange for fewer 50 seaters. Right now we can have around a total of 500 rjs which is 90% of the narrow body fleet. Why not shrink the total amount down to under 400 or around 70% of narrow body fleet and allow more 76 seaters. Just a thought not sure if this is considering relaxing the scope or not.
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Originally Posted by Grumble
(Post 2455564)
hahahahahaha!
No scabs allowed on that forum which is a good thing. |
Originally Posted by c-17 driver
(Post 2456029)
no scabs allowed on that forum which is a good thing. |
Originally Posted by Incontinentius
(Post 2457374)
Star fish.
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Originally Posted by Flyingphi
(Post 2454647)
I could be completely off my rocker here...but what if the scope the company wants is additional 76 sweaters in exchange for fewer 50 seaters. Right now we can have around a total of 500 rjs which is 90% of the narrow body fleet. Why not shrink the total amount down to under 400 or around 70% of narrow body fleet and allow more 76 seaters. Just a thought not sure if this is considering relaxing the scope or not.
The problem with United and why our competition is crushing us is due to outsourcing. We can't control our product, thus the product is crap. The frequent flyers know this, which is why the elite business travelers have gone to AA and DL. DL has made a concerted effort to replace RJs with mainline and last quarter they made more than a billion dollars in profit over what UAL made. That's a large gap to fill, and it's not going to be filled by replacing 50 seaters with 76 seaters. |
Originally Posted by Zoomie
(Post 2457910)
Like the other poster said... this is a horrible idea. The 50 seaters are going away by themselves. Perhaps they won't go away 100%, but they are pretty much just like the 76 seat turboprops that were allowed in the CAL contract. They are only flying them because they don't have any other option. There currently isn't any threat from a new 50 seat aircraft. Could that change? Of course it could change, but it would require a leap in technology. If someone comes up with a electric RJ, that would change the game. Until then, the 50 seat RJ is all but dead.
The problem with United and why our competition is crushing us is due to outsourcing. We can't control our product, thus the product is crap. The frequent flyers know this, which is why the elite business travelers have gone to AA and DL. DL has made a concerted effort to replace RJs with mainline and last quarter they made more than a billion dollars in profit over what UAL made. That's a large gap to fill, and it's not going to be filled by replacing 50 seaters with 76 seaters. |
Originally Posted by Zoomie
(Post 2457910)
Like the other poster said... this is a horrible idea. The 50 seaters are going away by themselves. Perhaps they won't go away 100%, but they are pretty much just like the 76 seat turboprops that were allowed in the CAL contract. They are only flying them because they don't have any other option. There currently isn't any threat from a new 50 seat aircraft. Could that change? Of course it could change, but it would require a leap in technology. If someone comes up with a electric RJ, that would change the game. Until then, the 50 seat RJ is all but dead.
The problem with United and why our competition is crushing us is due to outsourcing. We can't control our product, thus the product is crap. The frequent flyers know this, which is why the elite business travelers have gone to AA and DL. DL has made a concerted effort to replace RJs with mainline and last quarter they made more than a billion dollars in profit over what UAL made. That's a large gap to fill, and it's not going to be filled by replacing 50 seaters with 76 seaters. |
Originally Posted by Zoomie
(Post 2457910)
Like the other poster said... this is a horrible idea. The 50 seaters are going away by themselves. Perhaps they won't go away 100%, but they are pretty much just like the 76 seat turboprops that were allowed in the CAL contract. They are only flying them because they don't have any other option. There currently isn't any threat from a new 50 seat aircraft. Could that change? Of course it could change, but it would require a leap in technology. If someone comes up with a electric RJ, that would change the game. Until then, the 50 seat RJ is all but dead.
The problem with United and why our competition is crushing us is due to outsourcing. We can't control our product, thus the product is crap. The frequent flyers know this, which is why the elite business travelers have gone to AA and DL. DL has made a concerted effort to replace RJs with mainline and last quarter they made more than a billion dollars in profit over what UAL made. That's a large gap to fill, and it's not going to be filled by replacing 50 seaters with 76 seaters. https://dwuconsulting.com/airport-fi...aned-passenger |
Originally Posted by CousinEddie
(Post 2458234)
While UAL has a great network on paper, it is an expensive one to operate. On top of that, the competition is often strong at secondary airports with lower costs (MDW, HOU). UAL lacks a powerhouse hub that it dominates the way DAL does in ATL. ATL has very low costs and there is no secondary airport nearby competing with it. While revenues are good in EWR where UAL dominates, the cost of operating there coupled with competition from JFK and LGA make it nowhere near as profitable as ATL.
https://dwuconsulting.com/airport-fi...aned-passenger This^^^^^ Im not sure how we catch up to the others because of the above fact. If we do then they are either screwing up or we found the golden goose. |
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