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da42pilot 10-28-2017 11:27 AM

Rumor: UA looking to add 60 RJs
 
Heard they have an RFP out for 60 RJs. Any truth to this? I’m not at UA.

intrepidcv11 10-28-2017 11:30 AM

Yes. Pilot group will bend over on scope for a few pennies. Scott Kirby will be called a genius. It’s all true.

awax 10-28-2017 11:44 AM

Of course it's true! I'm sure UA "is looking to" add way more than 60 RJs. :rolleyes:

Then there's that pesky scope issue we hear so much about.

Bluewaffle 10-28-2017 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by da42pilot (Post 2456203)
Heard they have an RFP out for 60 RJs. Any truth to this? I’m not at UA.

If it is out, its to replace flying from another regional. UA is maxed out on RJ scope.

Sniper66 10-28-2017 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by da42pilot (Post 2456203)
Heard they have an RFP out for 60 RJs. Any truth to this? I’m not at UA.



If they add new NBs like the CS
Then it can be done
Contract compliance, other than that a wet dream

terminal 10-28-2017 12:25 PM

Trollin, trollin, trollin, keep them trollies trollin rawhide.

webecheck 10-28-2017 12:28 PM

I'll believe this one. As someone who's inclined to make his judgements based on things the company has recently said and done instead of being persuaded by events of a decade ago or more, I think this is a plausible rumor.

Kirby has said he wants to grow the hubs, and the way you do that is by feed. Feed from new markets, and new markets don't need a half filled 130 seater, they need projections of a 90% load 76 seater to avoid the potential financial burn if it doesn't work out. If one was to make a pitch to the union why it's good for them, you would need to show up to the table with actual metrics to discuss imo. Ie, we can acquire these airplanes by this date, it will cost this, we will open these routes, etc. I suspect said routes would all be markets we don't serve or currently underserve, and for competitive reasons the markets we already serve need frequency to be competitive rather than adding seats by throwing a mainline jet on it. Given that scope is maxed, but mgmt wants to grow now, the logical first step to address this with the union would be to open section 6 early. Oh wait, that just happened.

I believe Kirby has also said he wants scope relief so there's that too. Lol

Grumble 10-28-2017 12:42 PM

Bring them to mainline, he can have all the RJ's he wants. We already have them in the UPA, all they need to do is buy them.

Shifty 10-28-2017 12:45 PM

No on scope. Kirby can pound sand. Bring the 76 seats to mainline. Buy more A319s or buy a regional and staple them to the bottom. Period.

Sniper66 10-28-2017 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by Shifty (Post 2456245)
No on scope. Kirby can pound sand. Bring the 76 seats to mainline. Buy more A319s or buy a regional and staple them to the bottom. Period.




Very well said


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