Definitely will matter. Want to shine the light fully on the CP. Two things we don't want: 1. This CP being promoted to System CP and 2. The CP remaining in that position much longer (he's bad news for anyone) - ask the LAX guys how happy they are without him around, and he was only an Asst.

I see.

I would recommend we do what the IACP did with respect to D.L. McCoy.

The IACP made it clear, no contract would be signed with that person in a position of authority and/or leadership over the CAL pilots. Essentially, we held flight ops hostage, and brought the issue to the attention of Gordon Bethune. Gordon had to make a choice, keep her, promote her, send her back to the line, or retire her.

She was retired. Got a large pay out.

Sounds like a treat. What did she do?

She targeted individual pilots for discipline and termination. Most of the IACP's function was to continually watch her every move. Couldn't really focus on the job of representing all CAL pilots because she was 90 percent of the work. Most of the pilots she went after all got their jobs back. Anyone that had ever mistreated her, or was rude to her, etc had a target on their back, no matter how long ago the perceived injustice or personal slight may have happened.

I believe she got 2.1 million to go away....

She's also the reason the Rolls-powered 757-200's don't have headrests on the cockpit seats.

Debbie didn't want her pilots sleeping on the flight deck.

Couple of errors in your timeline. It was Fall of 04 right after Gordon left and Keller became CEO. Remember no concessions could be demanded under Gordo’s watch as he left and tarnish his reputation. Gordon had nothing to do with Debbie’s demise (at least directly) One of the first things Kellner did was fire Debbie (to appease Jay Panerallo), the second was demand concessions or we would go CH 11. Also we were ALPA then, IACP - ALPA merger was June 2001.

Here’s another one. Lots of lucrative CRAF flying available in run up to Iraq War. LCAL couldn’t bid on it because we didn’t have enough pilots. She had done one last furlough based her number crunching that if reserves flew more we'd need less pilots. Not only could we not bid CRAF but during the all-too-regular irregular ops there were no reserves to cover the flying. Lots of cancellations and bad publicity. No one happy. She gone.

I disagree. It was before that. 1998. As I recall, Bill Borelli said no to Debbie. There was definitely a transition period Bethune-Kellner, and Borelli (IACP), Panarello-ALPA-Pierce-ALPA.

I reckon it don't matter. Point is: Pilots wouldn't work for DL any more, and union was sick and tired of dealing with the daily drama.

I remember that. Wow, the stuff I forgot. Now every time I am on of the the Debbie-jets I will think of her.

Her bio shows she left Continental in 2005.

https://www.bloomberg.com/research/s...ivcapId=175265

Continental press release copied to another forum. Quotes Larry Kellner as CEO at the time.

http://www.airlinecrew.net/vbulletin.../t-179409.html

USA Today article states a deal was struck between Kellner and ALPA.

https://www.usatoday.com/money/biztr...coy-usat_x.htm

From above article

“Highest-ranking female pilot retires from airline
By Dan Reed, USA TODAY
The USA's highest-ranking female airline pilot retired last week as chief of Continental Airlines' flight operations while superiors investigated charges that she managed by intimidation.
Debbie McCoy, the only woman to ever to rise to the position of a major carrier's top management pilot, took early retirement as Executive Vice President Mark Moran, McCoy's former boss, is conducting a special audit of her department.

The audit was part of a deal between Continental CEO Larry Kellner and the pilots' union that management would look into complaints about McCoy's department.”