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Old 02-09-2018, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by APC225 View Post
Great idea for those who will be hitting the income level that causes the 16% match to spillover.
Does anyone know if it possible to fund a back door Roth IRA by over funding the 401k with post tax funds? 18.5k pre-tax plus another 5.5k post tax. Then transfer the 5.5k post tax to a Roth IRA?
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Old 02-09-2018, 04:38 PM
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Does anyone know if it possible to fund a back door Roth IRA by over funding the 401k with post tax funds? 18.5k pre-tax plus another 5.5k post tax. Then transfer the 5.5k post tax to a Roth IRA?
Roth IRA? No. ROTH 401K? Yes. Limited to $5500? No.
Once you contribute the full IRS individual limit, 18,500/6,000 catchup over 50, you can contribute as much as you’d like up to the 415C limit of $55,000; which includes the 16% B/C contributions. Since you’ve already paid taxes on this money, you can have Schwab send you paperwork to transfer all post tax contributions to a ROTH 401K account (within the same PRAP/PRCA rather it just characterized differently)
THEN, you can additionally put another $5,500/$6,500 if 50+ into a separate Post-tax non-deductible IRA. ($11,000/$13,000 if your married combining your account and your spouses) Immediately backdoor ROTH it and then file your 8606 with your taxes to acknowledge what happened.
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Old 02-09-2018, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Davedave View Post
Roth IRA? No. ROTH 401K? Yes. Limited to $5500? No.
Once you contribute the full IRS individual limit, 18,500/6,000 catchup over 50, you can contribute as much as you’d like up to the 415C limit of $55,000; which includes the 16% B/C contributions. Since you’ve already paid taxes on this money, you can have Schwab send you paperwork to transfer all post tax contributions to a ROTH 401K account (within the same PRAP/PRCA rather it just characterized differently)
THEN, you can additionally put another $5,500/$6,500 if 50+ into a separate Post-tax non-deductible IRA. ($11,000/$13,000 if your married combining your account and your spouses) Immediately backdoor ROTH it and then file your 8606 with your taxes to acknowledge what happened.
Thanks. Good info to get me started.
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