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scudrunner13 12-28-2017 12:19 PM

Interview Next Month
 
Hello,

I have an interview with UA next month. Has anyone recently been through the interview process that could pass along info about it? HR, Tech questions, Sim ride, etc? Using Cage to prepare. Thank you

climb 12-28-2017 12:21 PM

get prep. the jobs worth millions.

cage should be able to answer those questions, thats why your paying them.

no sim, just a paper flight to demonstrate your crm.

hope you get the job!

scudrunner13 12-28-2017 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by climb (Post 2490832)
get prep. the jobs worth millions.

cage should be able to answer those questions, thats why your paying them.

no sim, just a paper flight to demonstrate your crm.

hope you get the job!

Thank you.

Grumble 12-28-2017 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by scudrunner13 (Post 2490867)
Thank you.

Seriously, you have an interview next month and you’re just now preparing?

UALfoLIFE 12-28-2017 02:35 PM

www.aviationinterviews.com

It’s worth the money.

Fresh 12-28-2017 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by UALfoLIFE (Post 2490922)
www.aviationinterviews.com

It’s worth the money.

Agreed! That’s all I used.

cal73 12-28-2017 02:55 PM

Good luck![emoji106]


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Sunvox 12-28-2017 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by Grumble (Post 2490917)
Seriously, you have an interview next month and you’re just now preparing?

I didn't prepare until the day before and I got 3 offers in '96 :D If you fill'd the squares and you're an "honest Joe" I think you'll be fine with or without "prep", but just one dude's opinion.

N6279P 12-28-2017 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by Sunvox (Post 2490959)
I didn't prepare until the day before and I got 3 offers in '96 :D If you fill'd the squares and you're an "honest Joe" I think you'll be fine with or without "prep", but just one dude's opinion.

Bad advice. If you don’t come prepared for the questions you’ll likely be asked you’ll sit there and have nothing to say or have nowhere near the best possible response.

cal73 12-28-2017 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by N6279P (Post 2490977)
Bad advice. If you don’t come prepared for the questions you’ll likely be asked you’ll sit there and have nothing to say or have nowhere near the best possible response.



Or you could be overly prepared for a bunch of questions you won’t be asked. Give our prospects some credit that they aren’t mouth breathers. I know a little polish is good but the need to rehearse conversation is over stated. The applicant should be able to think and talk. I know at least one of the pilots who does interviews and he is the best guy you could hope to have interview. My advice is to get some prep. Definitely. But most important is relax, and be confident in yourself. You could also make the case that he’s been preparing for this interview for his entire career. Wish the guy some luck. Sheesh.

Once again good luck and happy new year.


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ReadyRsv 12-28-2017 04:15 PM

If you don't get prep you won't get hired. Start tonight. Hire a pro.

ReadyRsv 12-28-2017 04:16 PM

Also, Aviationinterviews is probably the worst idea for prepping.

Aviatorr 12-28-2017 05:27 PM

If you don’t do the prep you’ll prob never get passed the HR portion, that’s the way it is. They have a certain flow they use and if you don’t know how to answer the questions you’ll more than likely fail.
It’s $300 for 3-5 million in retirement, easy decision!

SUX4U 12-28-2017 05:48 PM

No offense to the guys that have been on property for a long time, but it seems fair to say HR rules this new era of interviewing at United. An outfit like Cage with very connected consultants to the interview team at UAL know this and don’t just over train you. The consulting is not about being fake or pretending to be someone you are not. It’s to highlight your personality and experience all while preparing you for the format of the interview questions. If you have some quirks or mannerisms that are less than desiresble for a preofssional airline interview, they’ll find them and work to improve those issues/weaknesses. By no means are these consultants training you in anyways to misrepresent yourself.

But it’s your career... if you think you’ll be able to go in and ace it with only having your significant other critiquing your interview skills then good on ya!

UALfoLIFE 12-28-2017 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by ReadyRsv (Post 2490988)
Also, Aviationinterviews is probably the worst idea for prepping.

So then how did I get hired? That website is a great resource to gain insight into the general interview process and adds information to your study material on possible situations during the interview. What it should not be is your only resource when you prep. The process is so competitive now that one should also get professional prep.

UALfoLIFE 12-28-2017 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by Aviatorr (Post 2491030)
If you don’t do the prep you’ll prob never get passed the HR portion, that’s the way it is. They have a certain flow they use and if you don’t know how to answer the questions you’ll more than likely fail.
It’s $300 for 3-5 million in retirement, easy decision!

The flow is not some mystery. It’s called situational based interview. Google it.

ReadyRsv 12-28-2017 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by UALfoLIFE (Post 2491055)
So then how did I get hired? That website is a great resource to gain insight into the general interview process and adds information to your study material on possible situations during the interview. What it should not be is your only resource when you prep. The process is so competitive now that one should also get professional prep.

Just because you got away with a bad idea doesn't mean it's good advice. John Daly smokes and drinks to excess but is a professional athlete, just because he can doesn't mean I'm going to recommend his training schedule to youngsters! :)

Anyway, it's FINE to read that website but just take it with a grain of salt and focus on the professional help!

Half wing 12-28-2017 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by Grumble (Post 2490917)
Seriously, you have an interview next month and you’re just now preparing?

A month is enough time. Not advisable to schedule an interview much farther out than that anyway. He’s probably been going over tmaat questions in the STAR format in his head for years. I did Cage and Emerald coast. Both were great but Cage was a bit better. Maybe CV is still on here and gives his own interview prep?

sourdough44 12-29-2017 04:19 AM

Good luck. I’d have to recommend some ‘prep’ service too.

Don’t be talking about any ‘scud running’ either. They don’t want to hear that version of ‘hero piloting’.

rightside02 12-29-2017 05:04 AM

Congrats on the interview . I interviewed in DEC of last year . I took about a month personally . However people are dif . I did interview prep for my last gig and eventually did interviews at that airline , then when my United chance came I still did prep. I agree some will go in and breeze right threw it . But most won't without help from outside perspective from people who do this for a living . The business really has changed from when guys interviewed back in the 90's . Prob for the worse in my opinion.

Few free to PM me to get my contact info would be glad to help any way I can .

Best of luck.

Davedave 12-29-2017 05:11 AM


Originally Posted by Sunvox (Post 2490959)
I didn't prepare until the day before and I got 3 offers in '96 :D If you fill'd the squares and you're an "honest Joe" I think you'll be fine with or without "prep", but just one dude's opinion.

Was it you that also said, “Back before climate change, I walked to school in the snow uphill, both ways.”

cramje 12-29-2017 07:11 AM


Originally Posted by scudrunner13 (Post 2490830)
Hello,

I have an interview with UA next month. Has anyone recently been through the interview process that could pass along info about it? HR, Tech questions, Sim ride, etc? Using Cage to prepare. Thank you

Cage Marshall Consulting- Pilot Career Services - Cage Marshall Consulting

These folks do a great job - if you haven't seen yourself on video answering questions and relating observations/scenarios this will be priceless prep.

HR does run the show, and you need to be able to translate your experience, enthusiasm, leadership examples, and schema into a language they understand. THIS is why interview prep is worth the $$$ - they speak an entirely different language.

Good luck however you decide to prepare for your UAL interview, see you on the line!!!

Fresh 12-29-2017 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by ecam (Post 2491370)
Things must be pretty awesome at United if this kind of crap is the best you guys can come up with to measure johnsons over.

But back to the topic, there's no way UAL is making a move into ATL. ULCCs have barely nosed under the tent and DAL has been swatting them like flies. Plus SWA has a large presence there. It would make no sense for UAL to try and establish a hub in such a crowded fortress market. Somewhere underutilized like RDU would make way more sense.

As many others have said, this is just Mesa trying to poach pilots away from Expressjet, and a weak attempt at it. They would have to be pretty hard up to make that move, and it would be just like Mesa to immediately close the base as soon as they have all the pilots they want. This dovetails nicely with the rumor Expressjet management is spreading about a UAL buyout and seniority numbers for the pilots. Which of course is never going to happen, but it will probably keep many around to see if it actually happens.

What we are watching is the slow, painful death of the regional jet industry. Finally.

I think you meant to post this in the other thread. :confused:

ecam 12-29-2017 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by Fresh (Post 2491377)
I think you meant to post this in the other thread. :confused:

Yeah. D'oh! Senior moment.

LeeFXDWG 12-29-2017 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by Half wing (Post 2491080)
A month is enough time. Not advisable to schedule an interview much farther out than that anyway. He’s probably been going over tmaat questions in the STAR format in his head for years. I did Cage and Emerald coast. Both were great but Cage was a bit better. Maybe CV is still on here and gives his own interview prep?

Back in the day (97) didn’t use Cage or any others available at the time. That said, I had access to a large binder of interview gouge in the squadron with after action reports from all legacy interviews with loads of then current info.

I do know one of the staff at Cage used to be on the interview board at UAL back then. Sat across from Dee Dee as the HR rep when I interviewed.

The prep services today are probably way better than back in my time.

I personally would be using either Cage or Emerald if I was in the process today.

My 2 cents.

Lee

Sunvox 12-29-2017 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by Davedave (Post 2491199)
Was it you that also said, “Back before climate change, I walked to school in the snow uphill, both ways.”

With hot potatoes in my pocket to keep my hands warm :D

I should have elaborated. I didn't mean not to prepare rather I was offering a sentiment that excessive preparation is unnecessary. No one should go into any interview cold, but neither should preparation take weeks to do. Read online. Go out a day or two early. Pay for the prep, and call it a day. The airlines are going to hire thousands upon thousands in the next 5 years. If you don't get a job offer it won't be because of a lack of prep, it will be because of a "skeleton" in your closet, or a personality quirk that you can't hide, or something else most likely outside your control.

SilverLake 12-29-2017 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by Sunvox (Post 2490959)
I didn't prepare until the day before and I got 3 offers in '96 :D If you fill'd the squares and you're an "honest Joe" I think you'll be fine with or without "prep", but just one dude's opinion.

So over the top not true for everyone. Hope you don’t pass this info along to some not in the know type. Setting them up for failure.

Aquaticus 12-29-2017 03:10 PM

Telling a story can go off the rails very easily when you are thinking about it as a pilot but relaying it to an HR person. The $400 is cheap insurance to not make their ears bleed and it will give you confidence in your answers. They want to know the true you and they can't do that if you are cringing from your answer to the first question that you bombed because of your nerves. Your competition is prepping for this interview.

Viperstick 12-29-2017 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by sourdough44 (Post 2491178)
Good luck. I’d have to recommend some ‘prep’ service too.

Don’t be talking about any ‘scud running’ either. They don’t want to hear that version of ‘hero piloting’.

True story

When I interviewed four years ago, they were still doing the sim interview. After the HR interview I had about 30 minutes before the sim interview, so I sat in the seating area next to Doris' desk to study. There were other appies there doing the same, except one.

He was probably mid-late 50s, wore an MIB suit that looked like he had slept in for the previous three nights, and I swear his nose was a different color than the rest of his face. Ex-USAF tanker pilot, flew 74s for Evergreen (captain, before being displaced to f/o, before bankruptcy). Talked pretty loudly.

He decided to strike up a conversation. I (and I dare say the other appies around) wish he hadn't. Never mind that we're all focusing on whatever interview we have coming, it was the topics he decided to touch on and our collective desire to not be associated with these.

Ferrying a 74 illegally on three engines & other shady stuff at Evergreen. "Yeah, I've got interviews at Spirit & Southwest, so if this doesn't work out it's not a big deal...how about you guys?" Bragging about not really preparing. You get the idea... I tried to send the non-verbal hints that I needed to study, but he never caught on. I can only imagine what his interview was like.

I thought after the fact that maybe he was a plant, someone to evaluate our group reaction to a rogue in the operation, but he was so far from the median that I doubt he would have gotten anyone to respond. Besides that, never heard of any stories of a plant in the interview process. I never saw him again, so I assume he moved on to Spirit.

Don't be that guy...

Airway 12-29-2017 10:09 PM


Originally Posted by Sunvox (Post 2490959)
I didn't prepare until the day before and I got 3 offers in '96 :D If you fill'd the squares and you're an "honest Joe" I think you'll be fine with or without "prep", but just one dude's opinion.

The above is secretly part of the screening process. The objective is to see if you're dumb enough to take this advice! ;)

I think Emerald Coast is probably the gold standard for most airline prep. I didn't know anything about Cage until after I interviewed but sounds like they are close to United. Heck do them both. ECC refunds you in you're unsuccessful. You have nothing to lose.

The interviewers don't expect or appreciate overly rehearsed answers but they do expect polished delivery.

scudrunner13 12-30-2017 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by Grumble (Post 2490917)
Seriously, you have an interview next month and you’re just now preparing?

I have been preparing for months and was looking for insight from anyone who has recently been through the process. Thank you for your useful addition to this thread.

Grumble 12-30-2017 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by scudrunner13 (Post 2491938)
I have been preparing for months and was looking for insight from anyone who has recently been through the process. Thank you for your useful addition to this thread.

Seems like all things a prepared candidate would know, like the fact that there is no sim ride.

Use Cage or ECI.

robthree 12-30-2017 03:00 PM

Interview prep teaches you how to present yourself in a way that is attractive to those conducting the interview and making the decision to hire you.

It will not change who you are. It will not give you experience or skills you do not have. It will show you how to show off the experience and skills you already have in a more flattering light than you otherwise might. The price is very modest for the return on investment. I used Emerald Coast and can recommend them without reservation. I understand Cage is considered the gold standard for United specific prep.

The only wrong choice is to not get professional advice.

climb 12-30-2017 09:25 PM

Groom. Shave that deployment stash. Be nice to everyone, ask the security guy how the broncos are going to do next season. Posture, review your roll-a-dex of memorys in prep of tmat questions. Practice answering in the star format. Be honest about your fu kups and be prepared to show how you grew from them.

pilotgolfer 12-31-2017 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by climb (Post 2492338)
Groom. Shave that deployment stash. Be nice to everyone, ask the security guy how the broncos are going to do next season. Posture, review your roll-a-dex of memorys in prep of tmat questions. Practice answering in the star format. Be honest about your fu kups and be prepared to show how you grew from them.

Doris is the biggest Bronco fan there is...and her kids are really into hockey. (Maybe grandkids, come to think of it). Always nice to have a conversation starter to break the ice.

scudrunner13 12-31-2017 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by pilotgolfer (Post 2492577)
Doris is the biggest Bronco fan there is...and her kids are really into hockey. (Maybe grandkids, come to think of it). Always nice to have a conversation starter to break the ice.

Thank you!

N6279P 12-31-2017 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by pilotgolfer (Post 2492577)
Doris is the biggest Bronco fan there is...and her kids are really into hockey. (Maybe grandkids, come to think of it). Always nice to have a conversation starter to break the ice.

Pretty sure I heard she retired.

Airway 12-31-2017 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by N6279P (Post 2492631)
Pretty sure I heard she retired.

Noooooooo!

CLazarus 12-31-2017 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by N6279P (Post 2492631)
Pretty sure I heard she retired.

You heard right. This week's Flight Ops Update noted her retirement as well as BK's.

Beaver Hunter 12-31-2017 01:37 PM

If you really want to stand out? Express yourself through interpretive dance. Set up lights and sounds to help really get the audience involved. Make them feel what your felling.
All jokes aside, best of luck.


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