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Originally Posted by WhisperJet
(Post 2494401)
Yeah and the 2230 departures to the West Coast are great on the NB, when you don't even have the benefit of the sun on arrival to help you "wake up" after 6 hours. Oh and then 12 hours in the hotel before a 2 or 3 leg day.
Or how bout 2 legs early am to the West Coast, day sleep then a 1130 pm red eye back to the east coast to finish early. Aint 117 grand! I will say - I lived on the west coast for a while and was SFO based doing JFK red-eyes where the all night flight was the flight out followed by a late return the next day. If I had to chose then that would most definitely be my preferred red-eye. I know it's not fair to the west coast guys, but I wish they would push all that stuff to LAX and SFO. |
Originally Posted by Sunvox
(Post 2494565)
Yeah. In all honesty if 30 years ago I understood what it meant to be a pilot in terms of years spent working night hours and holidays I would have picked a different career. I'm glad I made it to where I am and today I wouldn't trade my job for any other, but those intervening years were a hard price to pay. If it hadn't been for my wife being employed and being able to drop trips for many years I don't think I would have survived. Everybody who is junior and doing red-eyes and holidays has my utmost of sympathy. Being junior stinks!
I will say - I lived on the west coast for a while and was SFO based doing JFK red-eyes where the all night flight was the flight out followed by a late return the next day. If I had to chose then that would most definitely be my preferred red-eye. I know it's not fair to the west coast guys, but I wish they would push all that stuff to LAX and SFO. |
Originally Posted by Sunvox
(Post 2494565)
I will say - I lived on the west coast for a while and was SFO based doing JFK red-eyes where the all night flight was the flight out followed by a late return the next day. If I had to chose then that would most definitely be my preferred red-eye. I know it's not fair to the west coast guys, but I wish they would push all that stuff to LAX and SFO. |
Originally Posted by Grumble
(Post 2494681)
Look at LAX/SFO 737 and 756 flying... tell me what most of the trips start with. There was a point a few years ago something like 60-70% of guppy flying started with a redeye.
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Originally Posted by Airhoss
(Post 2494364)
Funny you say that about the clone parts. I was just talking to a guy at another airline that bought some used Chinese busses. They had so much pencil whipping and cloned out parts in them that they are retiring most of them early.
An engineer friend who worked on Chernobyl came to the US and took citizenship. He said one thing he absolutely loves about this country is people work to conform to specs and standards. When he worked in the Ukraine (as part of the USSR) he was expected to ignore testing and pencil whip most things other than the bare minimum to sort of get it to work. :mad: |
And to pile on...
I was talking to one of our FA's years ago. Her brother had gone to Dubai to work on some construction projects. He told her that they cut corners like mad and that many of their high rises were fire traps. http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/...1603124787.jpg And not just once! |
Originally Posted by oldmako
(Post 2494927)
And to pile on...
I was talking to one of our FA's years ago. Her brother had gone to Dubai to work on some construction projects. He told her that they cut corners like mad and that many of their high rises were fire traps. http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/...1603124787.jpg And not just once! |
Originally Posted by Sunvox
(Post 2494750)
I take back what I said . . . that's harsh :eek:
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Originally Posted by Sunvox
(Post 2494565)
Yeah. In all honesty if 30 years ago I understood what it meant to be a pilot in terms of years spent working night hours and holidays I would have picked a different career. I'm glad I made it to where I am and today I wouldn't trade my job for any other, but those intervening years were a hard price to pay. If it hadn't been for my wife being employed and being able to drop trips for many years I don't think I would have survived. Everybody who is junior and doing red-eyes and holidays has my utmost of sympathy. Being junior stinks!
I will say - I lived on the west coast for a while and was SFO based doing JFK red-eyes where the all night flight was the flight out followed by a late return the next day. If I had to chose then that would most definitely be my preferred red-eye. I know it's not fair to the west coast guys, but I wish they would push all that stuff to LAX and SFO. |
Originally Posted by Grumble
(Post 2495006)
The consolation prize is hawaii flying, but it usually ends with, or has a redeye in there somewhere.
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