401K B Fund Contributions
There's a thread on the Major forum where many are posting their W2 earnings for all to see. While I believe posting such things is considered crass (I'm old school), there is one thing I noticed, some post their 401K contributions as "Company contributions."
Let's get one thing straight for UAL pilots, THE COMPANY IS NOT CONTRIBUTING ANYTHING!!! Your 401K monies are a part of a negotiated pay package and are not given to you by the Company in any form or way. You earned them as part of your hourly pay package. The dollars in your 401K are there because your ALPA Reps negotiated them for you and you earned them. It is not a gift!!!! |
What an odd post.
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The company GIVES us nothing, we get what is negotiated. |
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I'd argue that we collectively trade the market value of our airman certificate. As Grumble correctly pointed out, they'd gladly give you nothing, you know, cause of your love of flying and all that. As far as posting W2 earning on a public forum, ....sheesh. Don't we hire someone in Herndon that make a complete powerpoint deck of that info? |
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I think some of you miss the point, while it’s called “Company Contribution” on our 401k reports, they is all “my” contributions some are just part of the contract and any amounts above that are done by my personal election.
Why do I point this out? Back in the day UAL attempted to claim certain retirement funds as their own. Yes these funds were the “overfunded” portion of the defined benefit account, but after a court battle it was made clear they were not UAL’s. And some may have already forgotten it wasn’t that long ago your 401k deposits were a substantially lower percent of hourly earnings. The not so subtle message naming this “Company” make some think they are being blesssed some how by a benevolent corporate structure. Yes the job is a blessing, and it is restricted to a very few, but we earned those $$$ as much as we earned any amounts we choose to deposit above the contracted earnings. Essentially this is a contractually forced savings account and protects those who wouldn’t contribute if they had a choice. Off my soap box. You all earned every dime in your 401k, and never forget it! |
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