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Originally Posted by Skyw
(Post 2513055)
United is going to make less profits going forward. The cash pile is going down every year. The economy can't get much better than this, so don't expect profits to increase more than 2017. Some of you believe United can bring the RJ flying in-house. How is that possible? Is your training department capable of handling the influx of new pilots and another fleet of aircraft? No, that's why United has to buy XJT and maybe another regional. It solves many issues.
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Originally Posted by sleeves
(Post 2513035)
Whew, that's good. Here let me help you.
https://re12.ultipro.com/SPI1000/Job...8FB5B4DE3C3DEB Please apply soon, and keep paying people to take your flights while you are stuck at that regional. Stay away from United's passengers. |
Originally Posted by bigfatdaddy
(Post 2513060)
There is more that you don’t know than what you do......every post you just keep digging yourself deeper into your stupid world.
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Originally Posted by Skyw
(Post 2513064)
Either way, Kirby will get scope relief or you guys will not get a new contract. How does United keep their regional pilots from leaving to other airlines over the next few years? Come on GENIUS...tell me? Do you even know how big the pilot shortage is at the United regionals? It's the worst in the industry! Delta and American are staffing their regionals with little or no problem. SWA is hiring up to 1000 pilots this year and they are hiring mostly regional guys. All the LCCs will hire the United regional pilots over the next couple years and that's your new competition. Play smart or lose!
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Originally Posted by Skyw
(Post 2513061)
I have no problem flying for Spirit and undercutting United. Maybe Spirit will take over more United routes? United CANNOT compete against Spirit; even in their own hubs!
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Originally Posted by svergin
(Post 2513078)
Spirit can’t even break $100M profit in a quarter with the lowest paid pilots in the industry. How does that threaten United? When I see a Spirit 787 flying from Los Angeles to Paris I’ll start to worry.
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Originally Posted by Skyw
(Post 2513064)
Either way, Kirby will get scope relief or you guys will not get a new contract. How does United keep their regional pilots from leaving to other airlines over the next few years? Come on GENIUS...tell me? Do you even know how big the pilot shortage is at the United regionals? It's the worst in the industry! Delta and American are staffing their regionals with little or no problem. SWA is hiring up to 1000 pilots this year and they are hiring mostly regional guys. All the LCCs will hire the United regional pilots over the next couple years and that's your new competition. Play smart or lose!
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Originally Posted by svergin
(Post 2513080)
No new contract! Then somehow I will have to get by on only $231 an hour as a 787 FO. Of course I’m sleeping for some of that time so it goes by fast.
"Despite O’Leary’s prediction that Norwegian has bitten off more than it can chew—at a time when airlines such as WOW Air, Air Canada, and IAG’s new Level carriers are adding capacity across the Atlantic—Kjos said Norwegian’s growth has been carefully planned. He doesn’t see a competitive environment between the U.S. and Europe that’s “much different” from times past, nor does he think fares for the big legacy carriers like American Airlines Group Inc. and United Continental Holdings Inc. have declined much, despite all the new flights across the pond. “We absolutely have no problem in placing the capacity on the Atlantic,” he said. “If we didn’t think it was going to be profitable, we would not have these flights.” |
Why on earth are you guys wasting your time following this vile little troll through the trenches?
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Originally Posted by SUX4U
(Post 2513089)
Why on earth are you guys wasting your time following this vile little troll through the trenches?
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Originally Posted by SUX4U
(Post 2513089)
Why on earth are you guys wasting your time following this vile little troll through the trenches?
"Route launches from the U.S. for 2017 include: Oakland/San Francisco to Copenhagen (March 28); Los Angeles to Barcelona (June 5); New York/Newark to Barcelona (June 6); Oakland/San Francisco to Barcelona (June 7); and Fort Lauderdale to Barcelona (August 22). Earlier this week, Norwegian also announced a new route from Orlando to Paris, launching on July 31, 2017. Norwegian operates one of the world’s youngest fleets comprised of brand new Boeing 787 Dreamliners. All long-haul flights include dual class (Premium and Economy) service." |
Why did President Obama allow NAI into our skies and our airports?
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Originally Posted by baseball
(Post 2513123)
Why did President Obama allow NAI into our skies and our airports?
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Originally Posted by Skyw
(Post 2513130)
The Trump administration had the ability to block NAI. Trump reversed most of Obama's legacy, except NAI. I thought Trump was for labor?
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Originally Posted by svergin
(Post 2513091)
He hates us because he ain’t us.
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Originally Posted by McNugent
(Post 2513162)
True story. I think he got shot down in an interview and this is his little way to act out on his bitterness. Hate on.
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Originally Posted by baseball
(Post 2513138)
I think most conservatives favor competition over a gift for labor. He's all for labor I think, but he wants companies to compete. I think the entire thing was rushed through. However, our ALPA legislative army should have been able to thwart this and explain to both administrations what unfair competition is. ALPA needs to do a better job in making the aviation industry great again. Trump wouldn't have needed to do anything if Obama had done the right thing. ALPA needs to be able to communicate to congress and the administration more effectively.
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Originally Posted by McNugent
(Post 2513162)
True story. I think he got shot down in an interview and this is his little way to act out on his bitterness. Hate on.
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Originally Posted by TogaParty
(Post 2513167)
Hard to hate when UA’s 2nd year FO rate is higher than our 20 year maxed out Captain pay rate at Skyw. His critisism doesn’t have much ground to stand on.
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Get a new hobby Skyw. You are beyond boring.
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Originally Posted by Skyw
(Post 2513176)
If you don’t understand the criticism, you must have little aviation/airline experience. Not a surprise, United likes to hire young and inexperienced pilots...ha!
Regional lifers are sad and pathetic creatures. |
Originally Posted by mainlineAF
(Post 2513196)
Regional lifers are sad and pathetic creatures.
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Originally Posted by Skyw
(Post 2513169)
ALPA is afraid of competition and rightfully so. But ALPA lost the NAI fight. This will affect all our careers, but mostly the major pilots. How can airlines like NAI staff their fleet? I point the finger at ALPA for not having direct flows to the majors for all ALPA regional pilots. Mainline has turned down many decent pilots throughout the years. Is it fair that these pilots can’t advance their careers and fly larger aircraft for a discount airline? Or, should ALPA pilots demand that the regional rejects be stuck flying an RJ for the rest of their lives? Even if the RJ pilots don’t fly for NAI, they are going to Frontier and Spirit; which may pressure mainline wages in the future. ALPA failed at protecting RJ pilots and their career advancement. ALPA deserved to lose the NAI fight.
You do know NAI has been hemmoraging money right? Their losses grow with every report. |
Originally Posted by Andy
(Post 2513059)
Well, it's wrong. A 50 seat RJ's CASM is almost double that amount. I don't know the source but it's not correct.
Well that chart was from 2003 and maybe not as precise. Here's one from 2013. I think it's getting closer :D Is the 50 seat Regional Jet Really so Bad with No Future ? Before I get to get where they go I want to touch on a myth in regard to the high fuel burn of the CRJ per seat, as per a study by PlaneStats let’s look at Gallons per Seat Hour of various Regional Airliners and put that myth behind us. Please note, the more seats an aircraft has the better the number generally will be, and that plus/minus all the regional aircraft have the same speed per hour. Gallons per Seat Hour Table EJet-175 with 80 seats = 5.5 -12.7% EJet-190 with 100 seats = 5.7 -9.5 % CRJ-700 with 66 seats = 6.1 -3.1% CRJ-900 with 78 seats = 6.2 -1.6% CRJ-200 with 50 seats = 6.3 BASE EJet-170 with 72 seats = 6.8 +7.9% ERJ-145 with 50 seats = 7.0 +11.1% ERJ-140 with 44 seats = 8.5 +34.9% ERJ-135 with 37 seats = 10.1 +60.3% Interesting to see the 72 seat EJet-170 burning 7.9% more fuel per seat hour than the CRJ and there is a case for the ERJ-140/135 to be taken out asap, but the stories about the 50 seaters burning a disproportionate amount of fuel per seat is just false, thank you. Regional jets and turboprops have always operated in higher yield markets than narrowbodies of legacy airlines, to offset the higher CASM (cost per available seat mile) of having fewer seats over which to spread the operating and overhead costs. As an example where a legacy airline has a Yield of $0.1273 and a passenger load factor of 83.7% for a PRASM (passenger unit revenue per available seat mile) of around $0.1066 and a CASM (cost per available seat mile) of $0.1040 for a 2.5% margin from passenger services, a regional airlines numbers would be a lot different. A sample regional may have a Yield of $0.2800, a passenger load factor of 75% for a PRASM of $0.2100 and CASM of $0.1950 for a margin of 7.1%. Note the higher yield and higher CASM, as these smaller aircraft must have higher unit yields to cover the higher unit costs of operating smaller equipment. Therefore, ideal for new markets where demand is not yet known or where demand is known and does not justify a larger aircraft. |
Originally Posted by Grumble
(Post 2513205)
You do know NAI has been hemmoraging money right? Their losses grow with every report.
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Originally Posted by Sunvox
(Post 2513210)
Well that chart was from 2003 and maybe not as precise. Here's one from 2013. I think it's getting closer :D
Because a lot of the regionals' costs are picked up the majors, the actual operating costs of RJs gets very convoluted and is hard to pull up exact numbers off of their securities filings. For instance, SkyWest's filing mentions that fuel, station rents, and some maintenance is paid for by the contracting airline so SkyWest's CASM doesn't account for all of their costs. Those numbers aren't going to be captured by a regional's security filings because those costs do not effect their financials. |
Originally Posted by Skyw
(Post 2513174)
I’ve never failed an interview at any airline or company. I have more flying experience than you and most mainline pilots. I can get hired at any airline I want. But, I’m financially well off and even if United offer me a job, I could not accept it based on my schedule and vacation. I value time off.
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Originally Posted by Skyw
(Post 2513174)
I’ve never failed an interview at any airline or company. I have more flying experience than you and most mainline pilots. I can get hired at any airline I want. But, I’m financially well off and even if United offer me a job, I could not accept it based on my schedule and vacation. I value time off.
http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/ed/ed835...c92139772b.jpg https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/d...MSm7GjLiqP/9k= |
Originally Posted by mainlineAF
(Post 2513196)
Regional lifers are sad and pathetic creatures.
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Originally Posted by oldmako
(Post 2513222)
That fact doesn't fit in with his narrative.
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Dear skyw,
Enjoy your nonexistent work rules at Skypest. |
RJs have always had higher CASM but airlines kept ordering them, and they still want more.
You gotta keep the strategy in mind. Remember that DL Bloomberg article? Delta Connection had a profit margin somewhere around DOUBLE Delta mainline. That’s a big deal—RJs are important. |
Originally Posted by Skyw
(Post 2513174)
I’ve never failed an interview at any airline or company. I have more flying experience than you and most mainline pilots. I can get hired at any airline I want. But, I’m financially well off and even if United offer me a job, I could not accept it based on my schedule and vacation. I value time off.
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Originally Posted by Sunvox
(Post 2510567)
+1000
Southwest has been around for over 4 decades and the majors are still here. Most major passengers wouldn't be caught dead on a SWA plane and vice versa. Thank goodness. The threat to UAL, AA, and DAL is not RJs but foreign carriers. Just as foreign cargo killed the Merchant Marine so too foreign pilots MAY kill US majors and if that doesn't work automation surely will. Honestly, if I were 30 or younger I would NOT consider aviation as a career. I listened to FedEx CEO Fred Smith on Fox Business talk not only benefits of new tax law for FedEx, but also about pilot less cargo plane and future automation technology. He said they are heavily committed in seeing pilotless aircraft aft technology rolled out and succeed. He believes it will happen much much sooner than many believe; most likely will happen within his life span. |
Originally Posted by Skyw
(Post 2513064)
Either way, Kirby will get scope relief or you guys will not get a new contract. How does United keep their regional pilots from leaving to other airlines over the next few years? Come on GENIUS...tell me? Do you even know how big the pilot shortage is at the United regionals? It's the worst in the industry! Delta and American are staffing their regionals with little or no problem. SWA is hiring up to 1000 pilots this year and they are hiring mostly regional guys. All the LCCs will hire the United regional pilots over the next couple years and that's your new competition. Play smart or lose!
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Originally Posted by Half wing
(Post 2513427)
Who cares where United regional express pilots go. United doesn’t need them and can get regional or LCC pilots from ANYWHERE. So GENIUS, how does spirit keep all their pilots when United calls and offers them twice the money and a way more reliable career? You sound like someone who thinks everything should just be handed to you on a silver platter. By your comments you show us how little you know about the industry. I’m guessing you have been at Express Jet or wherever for less than year. Also, you are right, they must have been really desperate for pilots if they hired you. About your no respect for regional pilots comment... I was at a regional for a decade and respect regional pilots a lot. You however are worthy of no respect ever. You must repell women.
want to invest/buy XJT? Why? Because without RJ pilots, United loses major market share. Duh!! And, you all believe United doesn't need a regional feed! WOW!! How stupid are you? I |
Originally Posted by Grumble
(Post 2513373)
He’s pretty much dodged every fact I’ve thrown his way that has disproven every stupid post he’s made.
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You guys do realize that SkyWest has a large chunk of koolaide drinking lifers that have no original thought of their own and believe their management when they tell them they are the best and deserve the every bit of the 1% pay raise during the worst pilot shortage of our generation right? I think we found one of them, he probably thinks his 110k a year working 26 days a month is the cats meow.
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Originally Posted by Skyw
(Post 2513064)
Either way, Kirby will get scope relief or you guys will not get a new contract. How does United keep their regional pilots from leaving to other airlines over the next few years? Come on GENIUS...tell me? Do you even know how big the pilot shortage is at the United regionals? It's the worst in the industry! Delta and American are staffing their regionals with little or no problem. SWA is hiring up to 1000 pilots this year and they are hiring mostly regional guys. All the LCCs will hire the United regional pilots over the next couple years and that's your new competition. Play smart or lose!
Kirby already fought spirit at AA. It worked. |
Originally Posted by PilotGR
(Post 2513520)
you should ready "Flying the line". Both of them.
Kirby already fought spirit at AA. It worked. |
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