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Sunvox 01-29-2018 03:08 AM


Originally Posted by Probe (Post 2514171)
Transitory only. 3 years from now, the Jr Captain at DAL might have 15 years seniority. I have seen this movie before. This is my 3rd showing.

+100

I'm not surprised at new pilots lamenting relative movement compared to Delta, but I am surprised at some of the regulars chiming in. By now every pilot in the world should know being a pilot is like playing a game of musical chairs. All you can do is hope that there's a chair near you when the music finally stops.

HuggyU2 01-29-2018 07:01 AM


Originally Posted by Probe (Post 2514171)
Transitory only. I have seen this movie before. This is my 3rd showing.

Maybe so, and thanks for sharing your immense perspective.

I just found out this morning that another guy I know is a NY-based Airbus Captain with less than 4 years at DAL... and holds a line. I'm glad they are enjoying it during this transitory period.

Airhoss 01-29-2018 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by NFLUALNFL (Post 2512975)
Hey Hoss,
Do you think that between the vague references to bigger bids for next summer, and the construction and staffing issues at TK ending that maybe we might be near the end of this stagnation?

Hoping......
(again, still) :p

My prediction, and this is as solid as it gets because I work at TK;

We will either hire a lot or almost none at all.

You can take that the bank!!

bigfatdaddy 01-29-2018 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 2514334)
My prediction, and this is as solid as it gets because I work at TK;

We will either hire a lot or almost none at all.

You can take that the bank!!

100% accuracy! You must be the oracle of Quebec street!

Winston 01-29-2018 09:17 AM

First snapshot is out.

ReadyRsv 01-29-2018 11:02 AM

Ugh. All 8 Den guys senior to me!

bigfatdaddy 01-29-2018 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by ReadyRsv (Post 2514510)
Ugh. All 8 Den guys senior to me!

And a whole lot more senior guys waiting to get in

davessn763 01-30-2018 08:06 AM


Originally Posted by Probe (Post 2514171)
Transitory only. 3 years from now, the Jr Captain at DAL might have 15 years seniority. I have seen this movie before. This is my 3rd showing.

Well you said might, but if Delta stagnated like United is now the junior CA at Delta would be 5 years on property the junior CA at United would be 13 years on property. I don’t think Delta was hiring in 2003 so you’re probably off a couple of years. If the industry goes through enough turmoil to shift CA’s at Delta to 15 years as you say, the doors will be shutting at United. Any way you rack and stack the numbers United is a poorly managed airline, and that along with demographics has resulted in stagnant seniority list. If I was in new hire class or even finishing up year one at United and Delta called I’d bail in a heartbeat, and I live in a United Hub.

MasterOfPuppets 01-30-2018 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by davessn763 (Post 2515380)
Well you said might, but if Delta stagnated like United is now the junior CA at Delta would be 5 years on property the junior CA at United would be 13 years on property. I don’t think Delta was hiring in 2003 so you’re probably off a couple of years. If the industry goes through enough turmoil to shift CA’s at Delta to 15 years as you say, the doors will be shutting at United. Any way you rack and stack the numbers United is a poorly managed airline, and that along with demographics has resulted in stagnant seniority list. If I was in new hire class or even finishing up year one at United and Delta called I’d bail in a heartbeat, and I live in a United Hub.

You are such an unhappy person I have never read a single positive post by you. Sitting next to you all night on the way to South America must be a nightmare.

ReadyRsv 01-30-2018 08:49 AM

It would be VERY shortsighted to go to Delta after a year. Why? Look at how many young people they have hired in the last five years. Things will be great when you get into the left seat of a mad dog but realize that long term you will have 2000-3000 people younger than you for your entire career stacked ahead of you. I'm young and am projected to have less than 100 guys ahead of me when I retire. So if I were to bail to DAL for a short term gain (which would be nice) long term it would be a disaster.

Hold the line on scope and we'll get through this.


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