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Originally Posted by Skyw
(Post 2515186)
Ok. United is the best of the best! Profits will soar in the coming years as United takes out the competition! United can do no wrong! There, now I won't be banned. We should ban everyone that doesn't have the same opinion. I'm a believer now!
I’ve known a guy for years. When we were flying Grand Canyon air tours, he always knew a “better” way to do things. When I was flying turbine equipment in AK he was sure to inform me that his C402 job in Vegas was a far better career path. When I was flying corporate turbo props he let me know that he’d never fly a turbo prop because it was the “lowest paid engine in the industry” as he droned along in another piston twin. When I was flying for the majors/ global airlines his Fed Ex Feeder job in a Caravan made him the most interesting and hireable man in the world according to him. Fast forward to a few months ago. He is a desperate 58 year old Sky West new hire. And Sky West is the is “best airline in the world” ALPA are a bunch of radicals who are “ holding him back from reaching his career potential” and he’s still got it all figured out, though despite multiple applications in the system he’s never had even one single airline interview from the bigs, much less a job offer. But he’s got it all figured out according to him. And he sounds a lot like our very own Skyw. |
Originally Posted by Airhoss
(Post 2515621)
Funny,
I’ve known a guy for years. When we were flying Grand Canyon air tours, he always knew a “better” way to do things. When I was flying turbine equipment in AK he was sure to inform me that his C402 job in Vegas was a far better career path. When I was flying corporate turbo props he let me know that he’d never fly a turbo prop because it was the “lowest paid engine in the industry” as he droned along in another piston twin. When I was flying for the majors/ global airlines his Fed Ex Feeder job in a Caravan made him the most interesting and hireable man in the world according to him. Fast forward to a few months ago. He is a desperate 58 year old Sky West new hire. And Sky West is the is “best airline in the world” ALPA are a bunch of radicals who are “ holding him back from reaching his career potential” and he’s still got it all figured out, though despite multiple applications in the system he’s never had even one single airline interview from the bigs, much less a job offer. But he’s got it all figured out according to him. And he sounds a lot like our very own Skyw. |
Originally Posted by Airhoss
(Post 2515621)
Funny,
I’ve known a guy for years. When we were flying Grand Canyon air tours, he always knew a “better” way to do things. When I was flying turbine equipment in AK he was sure to inform me that his C402 job in Vegas was a far better career path. When I was flying corporate turbo props he let me know that he’d never fly a turbo prop because it was the “lowest paid engine in the industry” as he droned along in another piston twin. When I was flying for the majors/ global airlines his Fed Ex Feeder job in a Caravan made him the most interesting and hireable man in the world according to him. Fast forward to a few months ago. He is a desperate 58 year old Sky West new hire. And Sky West is the is “best airline in the world” ALPA are a bunch of radicals who are “ holding him back from reaching his career potential” and he’s still got it all figured out, though despite multiple applications in the system he’s never had even one single airline interview from the bigs, much less a job offer. But he’s got it all figured out according to him. And he sounds a lot like our very own Skyw. |
Originally Posted by Airhoss
(Post 2515621)
Funny,
I’ve known a guy for years. When we were flying Grand Canyon air tours, he always knew a “better” way to do things. When I was flying turbine equipment in AK he was sure to inform me that his C402 job in Vegas was a far better career path. When I was flying corporate turbo props he let me know that he’d never fly a turbo prop because it was the “lowest paid engine in the industry” as he droned along in another piston twin. When I was flying for the majors/ global airlines his Fed Ex Feeder job in a Caravan made him the most interesting and hireable man in the world according to him. Fast forward to a few months ago. He is a desperate 58 year old Sky West new hire. And Sky West is the is “best airline in the world” ALPA are a bunch of radicals who are “ holding him back from reaching his career potential” and he’s still got it all figured out, though despite multiple applications in the system he’s never had even one single airline interview from the bigs, much less a job offer. But he’s got it all figured out according to him. And he sounds a lot like our very own Skyw. |
What is the problem with United compared to its' peers? The same exact sentence has been uttered, well, forever.
For the first time in my two plus decades, we have a great CEO, and he has helped to make the workforce at UAL (lCAL was better at this) more engaged than it has ever been. Heck, maybe even me. So what is the problem? Outside forces? Competition? We need more software? More RJ's will fix us? When you eliminate all other factors, what is left? Post merger, lUAL employees were happy that CAL "took over" UAL. Unfortunately that CAL management was not the same as it had been 10 years prior. It was then "infected" and taken over by United management in the ensuing years. I find it hard to believe that there is anything else to blame at United than a massively bloated, entrenched, "swamp" of management. Everything we do is too complicated, custom, and expensive. A couple of years ago we bought new flight planning software, Sabre. It was so labor intensive, we had to hire 400 additional bodies in Dispatch to run it. Brilliant. We pay for automation, and we have to hire MORE people to run the automation. God knows how many new employees "manage" our iPads. I am pretty sure it is in the hundreds. We only need WSI and Jeppro, and should just outsource everything else to them. And EVERY department at United does this. Our middle management is too bloated, too unaccountable, and too entrenched. When we "automate" something, it results in more employees making the automation work. What we need is a hatchet man. My favorite quote about fixing management is to cut personnel until you notice a difference, then cut 10% more. As an example, just look at Flight Ops. We could just pay Boeing and Airbus for Flight Manuals and flight planning software, WSI and Jeppeson to manage our IPADs (SWA does this). But no, our hundreds of minions at TK and Wanker Drive are smarter than everyone else, and we have to do it ourselves. I took a swag and I would bet it costs over 200 million dollars for all the extra bodies. 18 years ago, when we had 12k pilots, United flights ops had a Sr VP of flight ops, aka the "Chief Pilot". Now we have a Sr. VP of flights ops, AND a chief pilot, And a Managing director of Pilot Base Administration. I guess it takes 3 half a million dollar managers to do what 1 used to do. Extrapolate that to every division of United. Kirby is not the problem. The front line employees are not the problem. The problem is the middle. |
I don’t see a winning strategy that will defeat LCCs or ULCCs? It’s not just a United problem, but AA and Delta too. How much more cash can United deplete from their pile with new aircraft orders and new labor contracts? United tosses money around in so many directions, I’m not convinced management has a grasp on controlling expenses at all.
Anyway, here is an article highlighting the LCC threat facing mainline: https://www.bizjournals.com/chicago/...m-wow-air.html |
Originally Posted by Skyw
(Post 2515952)
I don’t see a winning strategy that will defeat LCCs or ULCCs? It’s not just a United problem, but AA and Delta too. How much more cash can United deplete from their pile with new aircraft orders and new labor contracts? United tosses money around in so many directions, I’m not convinced management has a grasp on controlling expenses at all.
Anyway, here is an article highlighting the LCC threat facing mainline: https://www.bizjournals.com/chicago/...m-wow-air.html |
Originally Posted by Skyw
(Post 2515952)
I don’t see a winning strategy that will defeat LCCs or ULCCs? It’s not just a United problem, but AA and Delta too. How much more cash can United deplete from their pile with new aircraft orders and new labor contracts? United tosses money around in so many directions, I’m not convinced management has a grasp on controlling expenses at all.
Anyway, here is an article highlighting the LCC threat facing mainline: https://www.bizjournals.com/chicago/...m-wow-air.html Tool from Utah Go away dude |
Originally Posted by Skyw
(Post 2515952)
I don’t see a winning strategy that will defeat LCCs or ULCCs? It’s not just a United problem, but AA and Delta too. How much more cash can United deplete from their pile with new aircraft orders and new labor contracts? United tosses money around in so many directions, I’m not convinced management has a grasp on controlling expenses at all.
Anyway, here is an article highlighting the LCC threat facing mainline: https://www.bizjournals.com/chicago/...m-wow-air.html SkyWest must beat you guys. Maybe that is why you * wear your sunglasses inside the terminal.... |
Every time I read one of those stupid LCC/ULCC articles, I price out tickets on them. They're never more than a few dollars cheaper than legacy choices and are many times more expensive.
Does anyone think that the high revenue business traveler is going to fly on WoW Air? Not likely. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qben5MLmtXo |
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