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It sucks to fail any portion of the hiring process. The Hogan is impersonal but it’s what United HR has chosen. As far as UAL sending qualified applicants to their competitors everyone does that. I failed a DAL interview and ended up at United. It goes both ways. Everyone has a process, it doesn’t make sense to those who don’t make it. Or when their friends don’t make it but you aren’t going to get rid of the process.
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Originally Posted by Pilot1227
(Post 2539718)
It was $200 on Ready Set Takeoff. I was nervous after I read about people failing it.
You take a practice Hogan then they go over it with you. They explain what the question really is asking which makes the answer obvious. I found it helpful. Thanks! |
Originally Posted by CAirBear
(Post 2543537)
I am about to sign up for RST. I am on their website right now. I see it is $399 for the year. Does the Hogan Practice test come with this subscription, or is that a separate $200 add on?
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Originally Posted by Pilot1227
(Post 2543896)
I paid $200 just for the Hogan prep. I found the price steep just for that one step but I passed and received the interview invite within a couple of hours after doing the Hogan. So, I would recommend the Hogan prep if United is where you want to work.
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Not defending the hogan (I took it and passed cuz well, I’m pretty awesome) but doesn’t Delta have a bunch of computer tests? Bottom line is every company has a way to thin the heard. UAL is the hogan. I would argue that they actually send out more invites to take the Hogan since it is a way to weed people out. If dL and UAL are both going to bring 100 people in for an interview, dL will call 100 people. UAL will give 130 people the Hogan (assuming the think 30 people will fail...I have no idea the actual number). Point is you actually have a better chance of being called by UAL all else being equal.
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Originally Posted by CAirBear
(Post 2543537)
I am about to sign up for RST. I am on their website right now. I see it is $399 for the year. Does the Hogan Practice test come with this subscription, or is that a separate $200 add on?
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Originally Posted by bizzlepilot
(Post 2546314)
Don't do the Hogan prep. Seriously, you don't need to. Interview prep and app review is worthwhile but Hogan prep isn't. Follow the advice earlier in this thread and you'll be fine. I did no prep and passed. I heard I actually got a smiley face on the test as well, but I can't confirm that... Seriously, just don't overthink it. I know it's easier said than done, but I think I'm not alone in that view.
I got so so so many “wrong” on the Hogan practice test arroding to RST. It’s impossible to know if I would have passed or not though. I’m normal and not crazy- I thought. Lol! |
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Originally Posted by bizzlepilot
(Post 2546314)
Don't do the Hogan prep. Seriously, you don't need to. Interview prep and app review is worthwhile but Hogan prep isn't. Follow the advice earlier in this thread and you'll be fine. I did no prep and passed. I heard I actually got a smiley face on the test as well, but I can't confirm that... Seriously, just don't overthink it. I know it's easier said than done, but I think I'm not alone in that view.
In retrospect, I wish I had done the Hogan prep. This is a multimillion dollar career that you’re potentially gambling with. I know I’m a good employee. I don’t call in sick unless I’m indeed sick. At work, I’m a happy person who gets along with just about everyone and I don’t have a problem flying with difficult people who are on many no-fly lists. I’m no Chuck Yeager but I can fly a good plane and learn a new one. But how do you get this message across in a true/false test when a serious number of answers would be “depends....”? Not long after “failing” Hogan, I received an invite from Southwest, and if you read the gouge, they’ll tell you not to bother with the prep as it’s unnecessary and may be frowned upon. Well, I wasn’t gonna repeat the mistake of not doing the absolute best to prepare for it, so I did the prep, and it wasn’t to search for canned answers, but to present my answers and myself in the best possible light and see what some of the common mistakes are. After the interview and in retrospect, could I have done it without the prep? Probably. Do I regret spending the money on the prep? Let me put it this way... I spent $400 to help me get hired into a multimillion dollar job/career and I was successful. Getting a prep and presenting yourself in the absolute positive best light should be a no-brainer, and that includes getting a prep to pass Hogan. |
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After the interview and in retrospect, could I have done it without the prep? Probably. Do I regret spending the money on the prep? Let me put it this way... I spent $400 to help me get hired into a multimillion dollar job/career and I was successful. Getting a prep and presenting yourself in the absolute positive best light should be a no-brainer, and that includes getting a prep to pass Hogan.[/QUOTE] For me, back in the day, it was FAPA magazines and prep guide ... I didn't use the phone interview prep. This got me through the interviews and hired at three majors ... The last one for 27 years. Prep services available now are outstanding. Spend the money to get the multi million dollar lotto ticket ... Once you are hired you can go back to being a cheap airline pilot. |
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