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oldmako 03-09-2018 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by guppie (Post 2547175)
What a bunch of horse sheet. Are you forgetting it was 'Slick Willy' who watched the AAL flight attendants go out on strike in '93 just before Thanksgiving? He didn't stop that. And what about the Northwest pilot's strike? They shut down their airline for 15 days in '98. Slick didn't stop that either. And the Northwest pilot strike was 18 months AFTER the AAL pilot strike. So much for the big four 'losing the ability to strike.' Lol. Maybe ol' slick did exactly what APA leadership wanted him to do. In any case, the APA pilots became the highest paid pilots in the industry a few months after that stopped strike. Heck, we all got PAID during Slick's Santa Claus for labor administration. Record breaking contracts as I recall. Kinda like during Obama's administration.


You're dicking up his narrative with all that ancillary factual information. Just knock it off will ya? EVERYTHING is just as it seems on the surface. Anything else is just fake news.

PilotGR 03-09-2018 01:42 PM

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to many articles on this subject...just cause you paid your 150K house off doesn't mean anything..if you live in a state that takes more from the Feds then it gives...your opinion is worthless.

Beans 03-09-2018 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by guppie (Post 2547175)
What a bunch of horse sheet. Are you forgetting it was 'Slick Willy' who watched the AAL flight attendants go out on strike in '93 just before Thanksgiving? He didn't stop that. And what about the Northwest pilot's strike? They shut down their airline for 15 days in '98. Slick didn't stop that either. And the Northwest pilot strike was 18 months AFTER the AAL pilot strike. So much for the big four 'losing the ability to strike.' Lol. Maybe ol' slick did exactly what APA leadership wanted him to do. In any case, the APA pilots became the highest paid pilots in the industry a few months after that stopped strike. Heck, we all got PAID during Slick's Santa Claus for labor administration. Record breaking contracts as I recall. Kinda like during Obama's administration.

Guppie, agree with some of your points but, how do you credit Obama and his administration for contract gains? Name what airlines struck during his administration. The gains made are directly correlated to a pilots ability to say "no" to a insuficiant offer. Plus the gains made in the past 8 years doesn't even come close to what has been lost in the past 25 years. Obama policies demolished union labor during his 8 years in office.

rp2pilot 03-09-2018 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by PilotGR (Post 2547198)
http://www.creditloan.com/blog/unite...l-tax-dollars/


to many articles on this subject...just cause you paid your 150K house off doesn't mean anything..if you live in a state that takes more from the Feds then it gives...your opinion is worthless.

If you're referring to my post about having paid off my house .. it's a $600,000 house and did it with a 15 year loan. Maybe you should tune in to Dave Ramsey for a few pointers on personal finance and responsibility .. It'd do you some good.

Grumble 03-09-2018 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by PilotGR (Post 2547198)
http://www.creditloan.com/blog/unite...l-tax-dollars/


to many articles on this subject...just cause you paid your 150K house off doesn't mean anything..if you live in a state that takes more from the Feds then it gives...your opinion is worthless.

Show me tax dollars paid per capita vs received. That’s what counts. If you live in CA you don’t get to take credit for all the taxes paid by Silicone Valley unless you’re going to also take credit for being the number one recipient of welfare.

guppie 03-10-2018 04:00 AM


Originally Posted by Beans (Post 2547261)
Guppie, agree with some of your points but, how do you credit Obama and his administration for contract gains? Name what airlines struck during his administration. The gains made are directly correlated to a pilots ability to say "no" to a insuficiant offer. Plus the gains made in the past 8 years doesn't even come close to what has been lost in the past 25 years. Obama policies demolished union labor during his 8 years in office.

Let's take a look at ALPA during the Obama administration. We added Frontier, Jet Blue, and Virgin America. Got FAR 117. And inked some incredible contracts using pattern bargaining.
You're right, "demolished" seems appropriate. 😉

Davedave 03-10-2018 05:47 AM


Originally Posted by Davedave (Post 2546761)
This is where you would normally eat crow but I suspect you’ll double down with emotion when you lost the battle with facts..........


Originally Posted by iahflyr (Post 2546850)
My statement still stands.
.......
All those write-off's are gone too. Add in a few thousand dollars for that.

IAH. For AMT, those write offs are gone anyways. Reread what I wrote. If you’re claiming that much in exemptions, AMT will have gotten rid of ALL of those anyways. Under AMT you could ONLY claim home mortgage.


Originally Posted by Davedave (Post 2546761)
Now that AMT has raised the exemption limit, and the exemptions which would have forced me to AMT are gone.

I’m a narrow body FO and I hit AMT in 2017. If you hit AMT in 2017, 2018 will be a tax cut for you....

XHooker 03-10-2018 06:24 AM


Originally Posted by Davedave (Post 2547619)
I’m a narrow body FO and I hit AMT in 2017. If you hit AMT in 2017, 2018 will be a tax cut for you....

DD, I get hammered by AMT. Even with the higher AMT threshold, after reading the changes, my CPA believes my taxes will go up in 2018 due to the loss of deductions. Again, I'm a captain, married, kids, one income, mortgage, relatively low tax state. I hope he's wrong, but...

SOTeric 03-10-2018 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by XHooker (Post 2547661)
DD, I get hammered by AMT. Even with the higher AMT threshold, after reading the changes, my CPA believes my taxes will go up in 2018 due to the loss of deductions. Again, I'm a captain, married, kids, one income, mortgage, relatively low tax state. I hope he's wrong, but...

Hes not wrong. My CPA said the same thing.

No AMT, higher standard deduction, and no traditional pilot deductions WILL equate to a higher 2018 tax bill.

svergin 03-10-2018 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by SOTeric (Post 2547767)
Hes not wrong. My CPA said the same thing.

No AMT, higher standard deduction, and no traditional pilot deductions WILL equate to a higher 2018 tax bill.

Democrats have said for a long time that high income earners aren’t paying their fair share. Congrats, you are now paying your fair share.


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