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Old 03-20-2018, 11:57 AM
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I don't have access to the Loa right now. Is there a process for claiming the first class voucher?
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Old 03-20-2018, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Airhoss View Post
Do not board on an Econ ticket.. Period, plain and simple. No drama, no rashness needed, just politely wait until the airplane leaves then call the Crew desk so they can make new plans. The gate agents know the deal but like to play it off to see if you’ll board without them having to fix it. Don’t do it.
So what do you do when your DH flight is the last one of the day and it's taking you home? LOA 52 21A-A is there for a reason.
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I suppose that one could always call the hotel desk, and have scheduling put you on the next morning's flight. You might even get paid for your extra day away from home.


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yep... sounds like with the new LOA if they bump you off the flight (no E+ or better) and you are forced to stay the night its treated like a cancelled segment of your ID and you get more pay and hotel.
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I suppose that one could always call the hotel desk, and have scheduling put you on the next morning's flight. You might even get paid for your extra day away from home.
True, though the next flight might be in the PM. You play it however you want If you’re ever in that position.
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Old 03-20-2018, 02:21 PM
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If you elect to take the basic Econ seat then you can seek relief at a future date under 21-AA of the contract to secure a future FC seat. That is your option. The new LOA only codified what would occur if you decline basic Econ and get extended.

21-AA has been in effect since the signing of the contract.

You are NEVER required to accept less than Econ Plus. Period.

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Originally Posted by LeeFXDWG View Post
If you elect to take the basic Econ seat then you can seek relief at a future date under 21-AA of the contract to secure a future FC seat. That is your option. The new LOA only codified what would occur if you decline basic Econ and get extended.

21-AA has been in effect since the signing of the contract.



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I see the 21-aa, however unlike center seat pay, there is no written procedure for obtaining that first class booking on a subsequent flight. (That I can find).
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To prevent any possible confusion...

There is no such thing as a Basic Economy seat. Basic Economy (BE) is a fare class paid by revenue passengers which carriers a number of unique restrictions.

The airplanes have Economy Plus (E+) seats and Economy seats (E) in the economy cabin. The UPA provides for E+, or better, seats when deadheading.
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So what do you do when your DH flight is the last one of the day and it's taking you home? LOA 52 21A-A is there for a reason.
It has happened to me. My advice is to grow a pair and enforce the contract.
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Originally Posted by Airhoss View Post
It has happened to me. My advice is to grow a pair and enforce the contract.
Using 21-AA to get a first class seat in the future IS a contractual provision, there is just no written procedure for accomplishing it. So, growing a pair has nothing to do with it. Missing an important family event because you don't want to use one particular part of the contract, even though it has been negotiated for our benefit, because some dude said "grow a pair" is asinine.

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