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Fourpaw 04-02-2018 01:34 PM

Recommendation System
 
Hello all,

Didn't want to start a new thread but all application or new hire threads were rather old.

Does United have an internal recommendation system similar to Delta where someone can send the persons name in via the main website?

Thank you.

McNugent 04-02-2018 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by Fourpaw (Post 2563520)
Hello all,

Didn't want to start a new thread but all application or new hire threads were rather old.

Does United have an internal recommendation system similar to Delta where someone can send the persons name in via the main website?

Thank you.

The quick answer is No. Not in a web based form.

However, if you know someone who is willing to go through the process to do a Chief Pilot meet and greet, thats a great way to get some extra points on your app. It also seems to be the only way to get an internal management recommendation, unless you happen to know someone at that level already.

pilotgolfer 04-02-2018 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by Fourpaw (Post 2563520)
Hello all,

Didn't want to start a new thread but all application or new hire threads were rather old.

Does United have an internal recommendation system similar to Delta where someone can send the persons name in via the main website?

Thank you.

No.

You include the employees email address in your application. An email will be sent to the employee for him to fill out an online recommendation. The computer awards you via some nefarious point system and you get ignored in the hiring process for months or years because United can’t get their poop together.

Meanwhile, you will read about CFIs and sons of scabs getting class dates and scratch your head wondering what is wrong with your application.

baseball 04-02-2018 05:14 PM

Just had a base CP tell me very difficult for even him to recommend someone. Our process is totally HR dependent. I was simply inquiring, and he shared with me the insanity of our process. Low time Gay, minority, or female seem to get extra HR points at the new UAL. Just tell 'em your gay. Automatic interview, you'll be in the next class.

PowderFinger 04-02-2018 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by baseball (Post 2563662)
Just had a base CP tell me very difficult for even him to recommend someone. Our process is totally HR dependent. I was simply inquiring, and he shared with me the insanity of our process. Low time Gay, minority, or female seem to get extra HR points at the new UAL. Just tell 'em your gay. Automatic interview, you'll be in the next class.

Yeah ... Happy works ... I mean gay ... I've seen the one guy in the terminal in IAD that has 7 or 8 items of various paraphernalia all over him advertising his preference ... not sure if he joined Untied to fly planes or to make a statement ... Might be best to make someone that distracted a radio operator ... To ensure safety.

baseball 04-04-2018 04:26 AM


Originally Posted by PowderFinger (Post 2563693)
Yeah ... Happy works ... I mean gay ... I've seen the one guy in the terminal in IAD that has 7 or 8 items of various paraphernalia all over him advertising his preference ... not sure if he joined Untied to fly planes or to make a statement ... Might be best to make someone that distracted a radio operator ... To ensure safety.

The culture of America has taken a turn for the worse. However, more disturbing, is the traditional culture of corporate America has fallen off a cliff. I like the companies that stay true to their values. UPS, Xerox, to name a few. They don't bring their personal business and their alphabet soup value system to work, and they surely don't wear it on their sleeves or flaunt it. And most definitely they don't use their "status" or "sub group" affiliation as a means to get hired and/or pursue advancement.

I hope UAL gets the culture right.

Airhoss 04-04-2018 05:25 AM


Originally Posted by McNugent (Post 2563526)
The quick answer is No. Not in a web based form.

However, if you know someone who is willing to go through the process to do a Chief Pilot meet and greet, thats a great way to get some extra points on your app. It also seems to be the only way to get an internal management recommendation, unless you happen to know someone at that level already.

I don’t know how Delta’s system works but I have written several LOR’s for United candidates through the web based system. Of course it hasn’t done them any good. But yes you can get an LOR. Through the web based system.

JoePatroni 04-04-2018 05:29 AM


Originally Posted by baseball (Post 2564637)
The culture of America has taken a turn for the worse. However, more disturbing, is the traditional culture of corporate America has fallen off a cliff. I like the companies that stay true to their values. UPS, Xerox, to name a few. They don't bring their personal business and their alphabet soup value system to work, and they surely don't wear it on their sleeves or flaunt it. And most definitely they don't use their "status" or "sub group" affiliation as a means to get hired and/or pursue advancement.

I hope UAL gets the culture right.

My friend, who has been at Xerox for twenty six years, would vehemently disagree- he would tell you diversity trumps almost anything when filling positions. His opinion is Ursula Burns was the worst thing to ever happen to Xerox.

baseball 04-04-2018 06:47 AM


Originally Posted by JoePatroni (Post 2564665)
My friend, who has been at Xerox for twenty six years, would vehemently disagree- he would tell you diversity trumps almost anything when filling positions. His opinion is Ursula Burns was the worst thing to ever happen to Xerox.


Thanks for the update on Xerox. Good intel on UPS though. Their system seems to be functioning well. Likely most big companies have been infiltrated and had their HR department's taken over by their own version of "Ursula." Rainbows and participation trophies for everyone. Pass the Kool-Aid....

baseball 04-04-2018 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 2564660)
I don’t know how Delta’s system works but I have written several LOR’s for United candidates through the web based system. Of course it hasn’t done them any good. But yes you can get an LOR. Through the web based system.

I think in our system an LoR actually hurts the candidate. Heard of more than 8 well respected (and I mean highly respected) Captains turning in LoR's for people. Net effect..... They got interviewed and hired elsewhere while waiting in "line" for UAL call. We are either top-heavy loaded with super highly qualified candidates that outshine those that we are recommending....or.....HR has "HR'd the system."

Maybe pilots should be in charge of hiring pilots....Just a thought..... Lawyers hire Lawyers. Chefs hire cooks, Engineers hire engineers.....it seems logical..no?


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