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Originally Posted by baseball
(Post 2564725)
I think in our system an LoR actually hurts the candidate. Heard of more than 8 well respected (and I mean highly respected) Captains turning in LoR's for people. Net effect..... They got interviewed and hired elsewhere while waiting in "line" for UAL call. We are either top-heavy loaded with super highly qualified candidates that outshine those that we are recommending....or.....HR has "HR'd the system."
Maybe pilots should be in charge of hiring pilots....Just a thought..... Lawyers hire Lawyers. Chefs hire cooks, Engineers hire engineers.....it seems logical..no? |
Originally Posted by PowderFinger
(Post 2564755)
Yeah ... My lor worked I guess ... Guy went to Delta ... From ual he got crickets
Spoke to two consultants off the record. They were initially baffled by what's going on, but now have come to the conclusion that the hiring matrix at UAL is intentional indeed. What pilots are looking for and what pilots care about is not what HR cares about. They are in control. Pilots have no say, no input, and without those have no control. When a LOR gets submitted, an applicant shouldn't get crickets and then go to DAL. That person should get a red carpet treatment and go into a different (more important) stack than those completely off the street. If ALPA's true goal is to take back the profession, then I recommend we get ALPA involved in our hiring process. ALPA members, and ALPA leaders need to find a way to pry open the door to this room of silliness. |
Originally Posted by Airhoss
(Post 2564660)
I don’t know how Delta’s system works but I have written several LOR’s for United candidates through the web based system. Of course it hasn’t done them any good. But yes you can get an LOR. Through the web based system.
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Originally Posted by McNugent
(Post 2564874)
That’s not what I was referring to. I’ve written many airlineapps recs. I was assuming he wanted info on a separate internal recommendation system.
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Hey, if it works! My CP meet and greet guys haven’t been called yet, either. Might as well check all the available boxes and hope for the best.
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Originally Posted by baseball
(Post 2563662)
Just had a base CP tell me very difficult for even him to recommend someone. Our process is totally HR dependent. I was simply inquiring, and he shared with me the insanity of our process. Low time Gay, minority, or female seem to get extra HR points at the new UAL. Just tell 'em your gay. Automatic interview, you'll be in the next class.
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Originally Posted by ReadyRsv
(Post 2565003)
Where on the app do you put down gay? Just curious. Also, bad taste. Very bad form.
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Originally Posted by Airhoss
(Post 2564916)
Well I did get one guy a CP meet and greet and also sponsored him in the friends and family thing. He’s still at Mesa three years later. He’s an Army vet, NCO with the 160th SOAR, Airborne ETC. Maybe he needs to wear a rainbow flag pin on his uniform?
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Originally Posted by ReadyRsv
(Post 2565003)
Where on the app do you put down gay? Just curious. Also, bad taste. Very bad form.
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You guys sure are wound up about gay people.
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