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XHooker 06-13-2018 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by awax (Post 2613930)
Last I heard every United pilot was set to get a pony, although now there seems to be disagreement as to who'd be responsible for feeding it.

I’m willing to strike over anything less than a unicorn.

24/48 06-13-2018 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by XHooker (Post 2613987)
I’m willing to strike over anything less than a unicorn.

I'm holding out for a unicorn that poops rainbows, nothing less!

terminal 06-13-2018 06:02 PM

I heard the captain contract will be released after 12 months, and the FOs will be released after 17 months.

oldmako 06-13-2018 06:07 PM

Why on earth would they (Mother U) move forward on a contract? We already gave them what they really wanted.


Improvements to -

Sick leave? Nope.
PS? Nope.
Pay? Nope.
Reserve? Nope.
LTD? Nope.
Work Rules? Nope.
QOL issues? Nope.
Anything else? Nope.

Suck it up gents. This is as good as its going to be for a long time. And be sure and wave at your DAL buds as they zoom past.

Spicy McHaggis 06-13-2018 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by Sunvox (Post 2613929)
I have communicated directly with our MEC Chair, and I attended "Charm School" in February where our CEO answered questions and spoke to us directly. Both our MEC Chair and our CEO said point blank to expect a contract early. They also said expect a pay raise but few other changes.




Yeah the MC and VC said grab a Snickers a couple weeks ago. Things are going slowly. CEO didn't bring up any contract info during charm school and no one asked him about it.

Not that anyone I've talked to is in a rush.

John Carr 06-13-2018 07:36 PM

Vacation override is coming back.

awax 06-13-2018 10:10 PM


Originally Posted by XHooker (Post 2613987)
I’m willing to strike over anything less than a unicorn.

I'm with you.

Rumor is the MEC demanded a unicorn, but the company countered with a donkey with a horn bolted to it's head. I'm pretty sure that's why a pony is on the table.

All In 06-13-2018 11:20 PM

Actually if and when certain company performance metrics are met, pilots will be entered into a lottery to win an emotional support unicorn. However, it must to be kept in the overhead bin and if the lucky winner happens to be a first officer his or her unicorn wont available for pick up until 11:59 pm on 12/31/20 and must be on FSB at that time.

Boeing Aviator 06-14-2018 04:21 AM


Originally Posted by Sunvox (Post 2613929)
I have communicated directly with our MEC Chair, and I attended "Charm School" in February where our CEO answered questions and spoke to us directly. Both our MEC Chair and our CEO said point blank to expect a contract early. They also said expect a pay raise but few other changes.

Just one example of an area in the contract that is sorely in need of huge improvement.

Current Delta LTD - 50% No Cap - 32% B plan contributions

Current Spirit LTD - 15K Cap

Jetblue AIP LTD - 12.5K Cap (might not be exact but close)

SWA LTD - Around 12.5K Cap

United LTD 8K Cap - $500 a month more then CAL negotiated 20 years ago.

We have leverage. Management is in a box. Tremendous pressure from Wall Street, BOD, Stockholders to make good on there growth plan being successful and most importantly to close the gap between DAL & AA and us and they don’t have a lot of time to make it happen or they are history.

Right now UAL has less 70/76 seaters then DAL & AA. UAL is approx 150 & 230 less mainline narrow bodies then DAL & AA respectively. The most profitable part of Legacy flying today is domestic.

The company needs more 70/76 seaters to compete with DAL & AA and the only way they are getting them is if mainline UAL pilots are flying them. Plus that’s a good proactive step towards the massive impending pilot shortage at the Legacies in 3 to 5 years down the road.

Better be improvements in several areas beyond LTD too.

We have leverage and we have management in a box. My two cents 50/50 chance of TA in next year.

UAL T38 Phlyer 06-14-2018 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by 24/48 (Post 2613995)
I'm holding out for a unicorn that poops rainbows, nothing less!

Exhibit A: :rolleyes:


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