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nycYellowcab 08-09-2018 03:52 AM

Base and A/C Drop in Aug 7 Class?
 
Anyone have the scoop on the bases assigned and aircrafts available? How about the 8 ball?

svergin 08-09-2018 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by nycYellowcab (Post 2651706)
Anyone have the scoop on the bases assigned and aircrafts available? How about the 8 ball?

756 SFO X 4
320 SFO X 11
737 SFO X 7
320 LAX X 5
737 LAX X 8
320 EWR X 5
737 EWR X 16

There were 34 in class. Not sure about who got what. There is another class in 2 weeks and 2 in September. Each of those have about 40 new hires.

SGRogue 08-09-2018 09:15 PM


Originally Posted by svergin (Post 2652041)
756 SFO X 4
320 SFO X 11
737 SFO X 7
320 LAX X 5
737 LAX X 8
320 EWR X 5
737 EWR X 16

There were 34 in class. Not sure about who got what. There is another class in 2 weeks and 2 in September. Each of those have about 40 new hires.

756 went untouched (not a must fill). 8 ball took a 320 to LAX. Almost 50/50 between Guppy and Bus.

F15andMD11 08-11-2018 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by SGRogue (Post 2652383)
756 went untouched (not a must fill). 8 ball took a 320 to LAX. Almost 50/50 between Guppy and Bus.

High awareness by the new hires! If you're in one of the upcoming classes and are in your 20s or early 30s, get up for life on the 757 in SFO. :cool:

Neosporin 08-13-2018 02:39 AM


Originally Posted by F15andMD11 (Post 2653286)
get up for life on the 757 in SFO. :cool:

what does this mean?

Airhoss 08-13-2018 03:59 AM


Originally Posted by Neosporin (Post 2654160)
what does this mean?

Wondering the same??

dmeg13021 08-13-2018 04:47 AM

Unfilled vacancies plus juniority in your new hire class = 757 is only thing left

tkt96 08-13-2018 06:12 AM

757...Oh the horror!

Winston 08-13-2018 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by tkt96 (Post 2654210)
757...Oh the horror!

It’s not the plane that’s the problem, it’s the juniority.

On reserve working weekends while your classmates are line holders getting weekends and holidays off, all for the same pay, is not fun.

Broncofan 08-13-2018 06:50 AM


Originally Posted by Winston (Post 2654231)
It’s not the plane that’s the problem, it’s the juniority.

On reserve working weekends while your classmates are line holders getting weekends and holidays off, all for the same pay, is not fun.

Agreed, did it for 2 years, the 737 QOL (and flying variety) is much better.

sonnycrockett 08-13-2018 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by Broncofan (Post 2654234)
Agreed, did it for 2 years, the 737 QOL (and flying variety) is much better.

Did it for 8 years.....off and on......ahhh the lost decade!

SGRogue 08-13-2018 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by Neosporin (Post 2654160)
what does this mean?

If you get the 756, you are seat locked into it if you want to go to the Guppy or Bus (no seat lock for moving up in category or seat). All you can do is move bases if you have enough seniority.

Galaxy5 08-13-2018 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 2654170)
Wondering the same??

Go have a look at a SFO 757 bid award and you’ll have your answer.

ChalupaBatman 08-13-2018 12:06 PM

I’ve been here over 5 years. I bid the 756 in training and it was great. Reserve in EWR wasn’t awful. Everything was commutable and we never had to worry about covering LGA. I was on reserve about 18 months. Only this year did I switch to the Bus, and that was because ORD (my home) on the 756 was becoming ubër senior with wave after wave of guppy refugees. Otherwise, loved the airplane(s) and variety.

My point here is if you’ve got a Midwest/East coast guy who’s going to commute anyway, maybe the 756 isn’t a bad call. I can’t imagine you’d be stuck in SFO very long before you could transfer to EWR.


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HuskerAv8tor 08-13-2018 12:38 PM

Heard the 8 ball was 23? Any truth to this?

T6 Pilot 08-13-2018 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by HuskerAv8tor (Post 2654452)
Heard the 8 ball was 23? Any truth to this?

Yep...truth.

Ni hao 08-13-2018 12:49 PM

23.5 ish zero jet time. That is a lottery ticket.




Originally Posted by HuskerAv8tor (Post 2654452)
Heard the 8 ball was 23? Any truth to this?


crflyer 08-13-2018 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by Ni hao (Post 2654461)
23.5 ish zero jet time. That is a lottery ticket.

Good for them, but why on earth are we continuing to do this kind of hiring?

Airway 08-13-2018 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by crflyer (Post 2654491)
Good for them, but why on earth are we continuing to do this kind of hiring?

23? Is that old enough to even be a millennial?

John Carr 08-13-2018 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by Ni hao (Post 2654461)
23.5 ish zero jet time. That is a lottery ticket.

Was it an ATCA program candidate?

Grumble 08-13-2018 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by ChalupaBatman (Post 2654428)
I’ve been here over 5 years. I bid the 756 in training and it was great. Reserve in EWR wasn’t awful. Everything was commutable and we never had to worry about covering LGA. I was on reserve about 18 months. Only this year did I switch to the Bus, and that was because ORD (my home) on the 756 was becoming ubër senior with wave after wave of guppy refugees. Otherwise, loved the airplane(s) and variety.

My point here is if you’ve got a Midwest/East coast guy who’s going to commute anyway, maybe the 756 isn’t a bad call. I can’t imagine you’d be stuck in SFO very long before you could transfer to EWR.


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Sfo756 does none of that flying. They’ll be doing redeye transcons to EWR 90% of the time. I wouldn’t touch it as a new hire either.

ChalupaBatman 08-13-2018 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by Grumble (Post 2654542)
Sfo756 does none of that flying. They’ll be doing redeye transcons to EWR 90% of the time. I wouldn’t touch it as a new hire either.



Try re-reading the 2nd paragraph I wrote. I understand the SFO flying sucks. If they’re thinking they’d like to end up in EWR, it’s not a bad gig at all.


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irish4ever 08-13-2018 07:33 PM

Wow, 23....hope they do some research on the suck most of us dealt with the last 10-15 years. Doesn’t seem right when buddy’s with LCA time can’t get a call


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Grumble 08-13-2018 10:50 PM


Originally Posted by irish4ever (Post 2654710)
Wow, 23....hope they do some research on the suck most of us dealt with the last 10-15 years. Doesn’t seem right when buddy’s with LCA time can’t get a call


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Yup.

So you’re telling me this kid is more qualified than a career mil guy who just isn’t current?

Chuck D 08-14-2018 04:40 AM


Originally Posted by Grumble (Post 2654769)
Yup.

So you’re telling me this kid is more qualified than a career mil guy who just isn’t current?

No, and there’s no point losing sleep over this. Also a high-ish timer when hired here. The company hires plenty of retired mil, 10-15k+ hr regional people, etc. Every single company also takes some low time, young pilots. The only thing we can hope is they vet them well.

rightside02 08-14-2018 04:53 AM

Here we go with the 23 year old versus military buddy who hasn’t gotten called.

It’s been beaten to death, its out of our internet Keyboard control . Hopefully your friend gets a call soon for those who didn’t .

To the 23 year old man I am jealous and envious . Congrats and enjoy the ride .

MasterOfPuppets 08-14-2018 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by irish4ever (Post 2654710)
Wow, 23....hope they do some research on the suck most of us dealt with the last 10-15 years. Doesn’t seem right when buddy’s with LCA time can’t get a call


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huh......somehow I must have missed that day in school when they said life is fair........:rolleyes:

How many times should we beat this dead horse. At this point the poor horse is a skeleton that is damn near powder.

terminal 08-14-2018 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by irish4ever (Post 2654710)
Wow, 23....hope they do some research on the suck most of us dealt with the last 10-15 years. Doesn’t seem right when buddy’s with LCA time can’t get a call


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Both his parents are Captains so bet is he’s aware of the past.

But yeah. 23-no jet time. Interesting
Seems crazy.

Brahma Fear 08-15-2018 03:45 AM

Had his Dad in the jumpseat. Nice guy, told me how hard his son worked to get here. I’m happy for the kid but that comment made me throw up in my mouth a little....

Grumble 08-15-2018 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by Brahma Fear (Post 2655481)
Had his Dad in the jumpseat. Nice guy, told me how hard his son worked to get here. I’m happy for the kid but that comment made me throw up in my mouth a little....

He’s 23.... he didn’t have time to work hard :rolleyes:

awax 08-15-2018 09:21 AM

Haters gonna hate, yo. Hate the game, not the player.

You can’t be mad at a kid who took advantage of a program offered by the company. This whole thread reminds of that joke......what’s the difference between a b!tch and a wh0re?

This kid works here now and will have 42 year career. Look at the top of our list today, the sub UA ‘78 hires are sitting at about that longevity. How much crap to you give them?

The smart money is on lifting this kid up, teaching him about labor’s past, and making a strong unionist out of him. Like it or not, he’s going to carry the torch to 2060. Shun him (and other young pilots) or teach them, that’s on us.

awax 08-15-2018 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by Grumble (Post 2654769)
Yup.

So you’re telling me this kid is more qualified than a career mil guy who just isn’t current?

He’s got as much (maybe more) airline experience as a career mil guy. Apparently he met min standard which probably includes being current. So yeah, to the scantron, he’s more qualified.

John Carr 08-15-2018 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by awax (Post 2655865)
Apparently he met min standard which probably includes being current.

Everything points to him being a ATCA grad.

If true, he met THAT min standard, but not OTS min standard.

Noworkallplay 08-15-2018 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by Chuck D (Post 2654824)
No, and there’s no point losing sleep over this. Also a high-ish timer when hired here. The company hires plenty of retired mil, 10-15k+ hr regional people, etc. Every single company also takes some low time, young pilots. The only thing we can hope is they vet them well.

Not every company hires people with zero jet time and no PIC jet/turbo prop. I know at FedEx we are still requiring the 1,000 PIC turbo prop or jet with a MTOGW 12.5k or greater. So he/she would not have met our minimums.

John Carr 08-15-2018 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by Noworkallplay (Post 2655977)
Not every company hires people with zero jet time and no PIC jet/turbo prop. I know at FedEx we are still requiring the 1,000 PIC turbo prop or jet with a MTOGW 12.5k or greater. So he/she would not have met our minimums.

Pretty sure it went from required to preferred.


1500 hours total fixed-wing time as pilot-in-command (PIC) or second-in-command in multi-engine turbo-prop A/C or jet A/C or combination thereof (GTOW 12,500). A minimum of 1000 hours total fixed-wing pilot-in-command in multi-engine turbo prop A/C or jet A/C or combination thereof (GTOW 12,500 or greater) is preferred

Minimums:
-ATP
-1,500 fixed wing PIC/SIC multiengine turbine (at least 1,000 of which is PIC preferred)
Pretty sure at least 1 pilot hired at FedEx this summer didn’t have it.

Airway 08-15-2018 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by John Carr (Post 2655923)
Everything points to him being a ATCA grad.

If true, he met THAT min standard, but not OTS min standard.

The first (or early one) of many I'm guessing.

intrepidcv11 08-15-2018 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by Brahma Fear (Post 2655481)
Had his Dad in the jumpseat. Nice guy, told me how hard his son worked to get here. I’m happy for the kid but that comment made me throw up in my mouth a little....

If his dad had any semblance of common sense he wouldn’t be spouting off at all that it was his kid that got hired at 23 amongst pilots. If you feel the need to brag do it towards friends outside of work. Only drawing uneeded attention to the kid.

BoJet 08-16-2018 02:06 AM


Originally Posted by awax (Post 2655635)
The smart money is on lifting this kid up, teaching him about labor’s past, and making a strong unionist out of him. Like it or not, he’s going to carry the torch to 2060. Shun him (and other young pilots) or teach them, that’s on us.

One of the best posts I’ve read on here in a while...

awax 08-16-2018 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by John Carr (Post 2655923)

If true, he met THAT min standard, but not OTS min standard.

Which I’m certain is not considered for a pilot job at United. He probably didn’t pass the Bar, or have an MCAT on file but still got hired. Go figure.

IHateYou 08-17-2018 09:59 AM

23 and no jet time and no experience is just flat out dangerous.


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