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BMEP100 09-03-2018 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by Probe (Post 2666322)
Retirement now is basically quitting with a few benefits. Medical isn't great unless you get the full medical benefit. If I retire early I will tell them to keep their medical. Too expensive for the copay and premiums.

Looks like the company chips in a whopping $90/ for post medicare premiums.

No kind of company sponsored life insurance including accidental death,

Pretty sad::( and skimpy

Andy 09-03-2018 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by BMEP100 (Post 2667632)
Looks like the company chips in a whopping $90/ for post medicare premiums.

No kind of company sponsored life insurance including accidental death,

Pretty sad::( and skimpy

That's the way it is for most workers. And a big reason why I go for maximum RHA VEBA spillage. Plan on needing $100K/person for medical bills in retirement.

bifff15 09-04-2018 05:23 AM

Andy,

Did you or your wife get or have an AD retirement from Uncle Sammy?

Cheers,
Biff

Andy 09-04-2018 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by bifff15 (Post 2667880)
Andy,

Did you or your wife get or have an AD retirement from Uncle Sammy?

Cheers,
Biff

Yes, both of us have military retirements.

We have Tricare. If you're thinking that Tricare's really cheap, yes it is. Right now.
But copays went from $12 (IIRC) last year to $30 this year for us.
And when one turns 65, they need to pay Medicare Part B in order to keep Tricare. Check out Medicare Part B prices. If you earn $170K-$214K/yr joint in retirement (the very lowest we could earn with 2 mil retirements + 2 social security checks), the monthly Part B premium is $187.50/person/month. That alone is $4500/yr for us. https://www.medicare.gov/your-medica...t-b-costs.html

And then there's nursing home costs (if needed). Two or three years in a nursing home will wipe out a $200K RHA VEBA account.

So if you're thinking that medical costs won't spike for you in retirement, I suggest you crunch the Part B numbers and then rethink how much Tricare will cost annually.

bifff15 09-04-2018 03:32 PM

Andy,

Great, just what I wanted to know!

Thanks,
Biff

Andy 09-04-2018 03:48 PM

Biff, sorry that I didn't post a Tricare for Life link. This should explain it:
https://www.tricare.mil/LifeEvents/Medicare

I wasn't aware of the fact that we have to pay medicare Part B to have Tricare For Life until a couple of years ago. It caught me by surprise and because of the premiums involved, I decided to max out my 401k as fast as possible to get the 16% contribution to spill into my VEBA RHA.

In addition, I want to make sure I have the ability to pay for a nursing home for at least a couple of years before tapping into savings.

bifff15 09-04-2018 04:02 PM

Andy,

Thanks for answering the unasked questions. I didn't know it either and it's a good to know fact. I will spread the word amongst my buds.

Cheers,
Biff

flap 09-07-2018 04:51 AM


Originally Posted by Andy (Post 2667705)
That's the way it is for most workers. And a big reason why I go for maximum RHA VEBA spillage. Plan on needing $100K/person for medical bills in retirement.

You can run different saving/spilling scenarios at RHACalculator.com

Itsajob 09-07-2018 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by BMEP100 (Post 2667632)
Looks like the company chips in a whopping $90/ for post medicare premiums.

No kind of company sponsored life insurance including accidental death,

Pretty sad::( and skimpy

Did United have retirement benefits such as paid or subsidized insurance after retirement prior to the merger or bankruptcy? I’ve never worked for a company that did. I always thought that when I’m no longer providing a service to the company that our relationship was over except for pass travel.

Andy 09-12-2018 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by flap (Post 2669966)
You can run different saving/spilling scenarios at RHACalculator.com

I do it the simple way.

100% of income going to 401k - first pretax until filled up, then post tax. Maxes out shortly after profit sharing goes into post tax. That gives one maximum spillage.

No calculator necessary for me.


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