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Guppydriver95 12-12-2018 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by O2pilot (Post 2723849)
We have a lot of people here who want to take the joy out of what we do for a living. I ignore those people and take pride in this job. There are much worse jobs than this one, including other airline pilot jobs.

Plus I’m sure this was the rhetoric the scabs all told each other when he crossed the picket line.


I think you missed the point by a country mile. Sure, take pride in the profession. But, the company looks at you as a widget. Nothing more. Sorry if you feel otherwise. But that’s the truth. It’s not about “taking the joy” out of this job. Simply a realistic understanding of your/our station at this company.

Andy 12-12-2018 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by Guppydriver95 (Post 2723877)
I think you missed the point by a country mile. Sure, take pride in the profession. But, the company looks at you as a widget. Nothing more. Sorry if you feel otherwise. But that’s the truth. It’s not about “taking the joy” out of this job. Simply a realistic understanding of your/our station at this company.

… which is no different than any other company. Everyone in every company, including top management, are a bunch of replaceable widgets. I especially found it humorous when I was in the military and I'd watch people in leadership positions feel that they were indispensable. Then they'd PCS or retire and be forgotten within a couple of months.

Flytolive 12-12-2018 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by Grumble (Post 2723463)
The MEC gives away this ability with an LOA

Wrong. You should read the LOA too, and the 50 hour floor is a great get that will improve trip trading.

BoJet 12-12-2018 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by Flytolive (Post 2723993)
Wrong. You should read the LOA too, and the 50 hour floor is a great get that will improve trip trading.

Pass the koolade bro
It’s so great- NOT. There is nothing that forces the company to allow drops. Most bases have “Min level” higher than available reserves let alone net reserves.
Bottom line, we traded for a theory. It’s a nice theory. If no drops in December occur, how do you think July will go? LOL

Flytolive 12-12-2018 02:26 PM

Bro, give up checkers and check out chess. Glad some here or on forums and not the MEC. Might want to give your reps a call after you finally read the LOA.

baseball 12-12-2018 03:00 PM

It's not a question of "reading the LOA." Any fool can read some adjectives and some adverbs. The real question is "seeing it in action."

Results matter. Who benefits and how they benefit matter. Language is just language. Who cares what it says. Focus on what it does.

baseball 12-12-2018 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by O2pilot (Post 2723849)
We have a lot of people here who want to take the joy out of what we do for a living. I ignore those people and take pride in this job. There are much worse jobs than this one, including other airline pilot jobs.

Plus I’m sure this was the rhetoric the scabs all told each other when he crossed the picket line.

I think the point is this: Don't get wrapped around the axle on stuff you can't control. If it's management's thing, then so be it. If it's the union's thing so be it. You keep yourself happy if you stay in your lane and don't worry about what you can't control.

I don't know what scabs told each other when they crossed the line. I do think they all giggled and laughed, because that's what they still do today.

baseball 12-12-2018 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by Floyd (Post 2720482)
I'm at a loss for words.

It was rhetorical in nature.

Slats Extend 12-12-2018 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by Flytolive (Post 2724008)
Bro, give up checkers and check out chess. Glad some here or on forums and not the MEC. Might want to give your reps a call after you finally read the LOA.




We have "read" the LOA...When you wake from LaLa land and realize that its the "company" that decides when and if you may trade/drop below the 50 hour floor, then you will understand how those of us that have been around here a few years interpret this LOA.


The question to ask your reps is not one of this LOA. It's one of where is our contract.

Flytolive 12-12-2018 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by Slats Extend (Post 2724030)
We have "read" the LOA...

That is obviously not the case for many here.


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