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Deathwish 01-04-2019 01:16 PM

Ngpa 2019
 
Is there anyone here who has knowledge of what attendees can expect at the upcoming conference? United is hosting the event and has a large block of time allotted for themselves, but there isn’t a whole lot of information of how the day will go. Hopefully there will be an opportunity to meet face to face with a recruiter.

oldmako 01-04-2019 02:14 PM

What is NGPA?

N6279P 01-04-2019 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by oldmako (Post 2736781)
What is NGPA?

Is Google no longer working?

Ni hao 01-04-2019 02:23 PM

National Gay Pilots Association




Originally Posted by oldmako (Post 2736781)
What is NGPA?


satpak77 01-04-2019 02:32 PM

LOL

actually wonder how many people attend this. may be a "back door" to a short recruiter line

no pun intended

oldmako 01-04-2019 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by N6279P (Post 2736790)
Is Google no longer working?

Google? Yes, and it's fabulous.

FlewNavy 01-04-2019 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by Deathwish (Post 2736747)
Is there anyone here who has knowledge of what attendees can expect at the upcoming conference?

A few really well dressed pilots with fabulous hair wearing skinny jeans and then about 5000 average looking regional or military pilots looking to get hired by a major airline.

jdt30 01-04-2019 05:53 PM

Is being recruited the same as being propositioned?

Slop 01-05-2019 02:13 AM


Originally Posted by FlewNavy (Post 2736846)
A few really well dressed pilots with fabulous hair wearing skinny jeans and then about 5000 average looking regional or military pilots looking to get hired by a major airline.

It’s usually too early for laughs, but the truth of your statement got me chuckling. If I didn’t already have a job, I’d be gay for a day.

Glenntilton 01-05-2019 03:57 AM

https://ih0.redbubble.net/image.1474...0,075,f.u1.jpg

tkt96 01-05-2019 06:23 AM


Originally Posted by Glenntilton (Post 2737076)

How many years do you have left?

FlewNavy 01-05-2019 06:50 AM

I think there was some room here to make light that there are tons of "straight" folks that attend and support NGPA just as there are many fair skinned people that attend OBAP and men that attend WAI. Pilots will do what is required to get noticed and hired.

Just like the threads that get locked for political stuff...if this one derails in a direction of the goodness/badness of NGPA or its membership...it should get locked as well.

ReadyRsv 01-05-2019 09:06 AM

I’m sure you guys make the same jokes about our gay ALPA pilots to their faces, right?

Bestglide 01-05-2019 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by ReadyRsv (Post 2737232)
I’m sure you guys make the same jokes about our gay ALPA pilots to their faces, right?

Why not get hired cuz ur the most qualified? Why the identity politics?
To answer your question...lighten up Francis :)

Airhoss 01-05-2019 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by ReadyRsv (Post 2737232)
I’m sure you guys make the same jokes about our gay ALPA pilots to their faces, right?

Ditto on the lightened Francis..

Everybody has something to be offended by now. Isn’t it a great time to be an American!

ReadyRsv 01-05-2019 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by Bestglide (Post 2737271)
Why not get hired cuz ur the most qualified? Why the identity politics?
To answer your question...lighten up Francis :)

Who said anything about hiring. I’m just asking if you make gay jokes in the cockpit. Not very professional.

ReadyRsv 01-05-2019 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 2737273)
Ditto on the lightened Francis..

Everybody has something to be offended by now. Isn’t it a great time to be an American!

I don’t think gay jokes are appropriate. Socsity as a whole, and our company, our association all agree that this is not a thing that is helpful to say.

I’m not personally offended. However-, as a union member I’m sure you wouldn’t Intentionally insult your brothers and sisters. Especially those in a marginalized demographic. Right?

Bestglide 01-05-2019 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by ReadyRsv (Post 2737303)
I don’t think gay jokes are appropriate. Socsity as a whole, and our company, our association all agree that this is not a thing that is helpful to say.

I’m not personally offended. However-, as a union member I’m sure you wouldn’t Intentionally insult your brothers and sisters. Especially those in a marginalized demographic. Right?

All this from it’s a great time to be an American?
Yes it is!

tkt96 01-05-2019 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 2737273)
Ditto on the lightened Francis..

Everybody has something to be offended by now. Isn’t it a great time to be an American!

I wouldn't say I'm offended...I'm just embarrassed to be associated with people who are so ignorant. I can't believe I have to work with them.

It's hard to believe people can be so stupid and misinformed.

I know I know...the Bible says it's wrong. Lol

duvie 01-05-2019 12:51 PM

I’m far from a bleeding heart, so for the 50% that want to hide behind “PC police” / “identitiy politics” routine, my voting interests are aligned with yours (sometimes). But I feel obligated to say that I too find it odd that a bunch of grown men who want to be treated like professionals, make unclever jokes about what some people want to do behind closed doors.

If any part of you believes in freedom from conformity and groupthink, then embrace consenting adults ability to do whatever they want, instead of drawing attention to our differences.

I couldn’t care less what my coworkers do on their own time, just don’t cause me extra paperwork or stress

Deathwish 01-05-2019 12:56 PM

I just want to know if there will be an opportunity to speak with a recruiter one on one. From what I can tell they have done away with the fast passes where you had a specific time slot. Perhaps someone on here is connected to the recruitment team?

captsurf 01-05-2019 01:06 PM

Ngpa 2019
 
Went there 2 years in a row. First year was a nightmare. United didn’t have enough recruiters to meet with everyone. The line stretched across the pool deck of the resort. Anyone with a fast pass just went in front of the line. People without one stood in line for 8hrs to meet with our recruiters, baking in the sun in black suits, going on food/bathroom runs in shifts while others held their spot in line, only to get towards the front and be told “sorry folks, that’s all we’ve got time for today. Please hand in your resumes and we’ll take a look back in Denver.”

The second year went much better, as they limited the amount of tickets.

Politics aside, it’s a decent career fair for the price if you can’t get an invite to an in-house expo/career fair. If they offer fast passes or time slot reservations, I highly recommend reserving one. Not sure if they do that anymore though... if you have the time off can easily take it, check it out. If not, don’t worry about it. It may just be a good opportunity to talk to a recruiter and see how you can better your resume, but that’s likely all it is now. I think most of the hiring is coming from the in-house expos which invites are sent to the top applicants. Granted- going to NGPA could give you the added points and feedback to make your application a top candidate so it can’t hurt to go....

Itsajob 01-05-2019 01:20 PM

Some of this is an example of why comedians won’t perform on college campuses. You can’t even crack a joke without some super sensitive person claiming that what you said is offensive. With the exception of a few really clean knock knock jokes, most humor is at the expense of another. I’m not offended or harmed by jokes about overweight, uptight, middle aged white guys. There’re funny. Crude humor is the best of all types of humor, it can just get you in trouble at work. Lighten up and enjoy laughing at others as well as yourself. Life is too short to be politically correct.

ReadyRsv 01-05-2019 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by Itsajob (Post 2737372)
Life is too short to be politically correct.

First off: This isn't a comedy club, it's a workplace forum filled with professionals.

Secondly, it's widely accepted by the public(I'm assuming you are an airline pilot) and 100% settled at United that these types of comments aren't acceptable in the workplace. It's against the rules, for good reason. You are being rude, and bigoted, which is not acceptable behavior by any standard of measurement for an ALPA pilot. Your comments are hurtful to my friends here at United and I won't accept you playing as if they weren't. This isn't a grey area. People in a comedy club can leave, people at their employer can't.

If you want to say bigoted stuff do it somewhere else.

The constant gay bashing every time NGPA shows up on here is regrettable and embarrassing and for those of you reading this who aren't at UAL it doesn't represent our pilots or values as an organization.

Slaphappy 01-05-2019 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by ReadyRsv (Post 2737303)
marginalized demographic.

Don't enable the oppression delusion.

BMEP100 01-05-2019 04:25 PM

I think we need a hiring meet n greet for cat lovers..

Now, I double dog dare ya to make a “cat joke”. ;)

I’m already offended just thinking about it.

Let’s just agree to be all inclusive, and establish a new class: P.O.’ed

Perpetually Offended.

Airhoss 01-05-2019 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by ReadyRsv (Post 2737441)
First off: This isn't a comedy club, it's a workplace forum filled with professionals.

Secondly, it's widely accepted by the public(I'm assuming you are an airline pilot) and 100% settled at United that these types of comments aren't acceptable in the workplace. It's against the rules, for good reason. You are being rude, and bigoted, which is not acceptable behavior by any standard of measurement for an ALPA pilot. Your comments are hurtful to my friends here at United and I won't accept you playing as if they weren't. This isn't a grey area. People in a comedy club can leave, people at their employer can't.

If you want to say bigoted stuff do it somewhere else.

The constant gay bashing every time NGPA shows up on here is regrettable and embarrassing and for those of you reading this who aren't at UAL it doesn't represent our pilots or values as an organization.

Molehill meet the mountain! No bashing took place here but you sure are a sensitive little spit aren’t ya?

ReadyRsv 01-05-2019 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 2737471)
Molehill meet the mountain! No bashing took place here but you sure are a sensitive little spit aren’t ya?

Nope. I dare you to make a gay joke in front of Oscar. I’m sure he’ll find it funny.

You may think it’s a molehill which is why I haven’t said that I think you are a bigot but it needed to be said. No place for it here. None.

Airhoss 01-05-2019 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by ReadyRsv (Post 2737474)
Nope. I dare you to make a gay joke in front of Oscar. I’m sure he’ll find it funny.

You may think it’s a molehill which is why I haven’t said that I think you are a bigot but it needed to be said. No place for it here. None.

Really, you might want to check yourself there pal. Please quote what I said that makes me a biggot.

Itsajob 01-05-2019 05:07 PM

looking like a snowflake is melting. I don’t care if it’s a gay joke or any other type of joke. No need to get your panties in a wad over this stuff. Oops, I did it again.

ReadyRsv 01-05-2019 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 2737483)
Really, you might want to check yourself there pal. Please quote what I said that makes me a biggot.

I didn’t say you were a bigot. I said that many of the things said here would easily be considered bigoted language in a workplace. This being a professional website I think we should behave appropriately, especially someone who identifies as a TK employee regularly. You were however and still are defending the tasteless language on here.

Anyway. If you want to keep making jokes at the expense of LGBT people or defending those who do feel free. I’m just pointing out what should be patently obvious, that you shouldn’t be making gay jokes on a United forum.

BMEP100 01-05-2019 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by ReadyRsv (Post 2737302)
Who said anything about hiring. I’m just asking if you make gay jokes in the cockpit. Not very professional.

Only straight white guy jokes. They are the only ones left that it’s legal to laugh about their habits.

So these two straight white guys walk into a bar.....
Do I get the PC Bravo award?

Airhoss 01-05-2019 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by ReadyRsv (Post 2737487)
I didn’t say you were a bigot. I said that many of the things said here would easily be considered bigoted language in a workplace. This being a professional website I think we should behave appropriately, especially someone who identifies as a TK employee regularly. You were however and still are defending the tasteless language on here.

Anyway. If you want to keep making jokes at the expense of LGBT people or defending those who do feel free. I’m just pointing out what should be patently obvious, that you shouldn’t be making gay jokes on a United forum.

Haven’t made a joke here or on any other thread. Didn’t defend anyone who did. I merely pointed out that I think you are flying way off the handle. You might want to calm down and reread this thread.

Broncofan 01-05-2019 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 2737502)
Haven’t made a joke here or on any other thread. Didn’t defend anyone who did. I merely pointed out that I think you are flying way off the handle. You might want to calm down and reread this thread.

All hoss has said is quit taking things so seriously, and I agree your a bit over reacting

TillerTemptress 01-05-2019 07:38 PM

Back to useful information: United will not be meeting w/ anybody 1 on 1 at the job fair. There are no timeslots or fastpasses because they will only be doing an 'info session' talking about their hiring plans for the year.
Not really worth the money for most.

duvie 01-05-2019 08:13 PM

No one is saying gay people are oppressed or that there aren’t plenty of hilarious offensive comedians (just YouTube jeselnik or burr), but what feels weird as a SWM non liberal, is that you makes jokes about your coworkers behind an anonymous identity that you wouldn’t make in the crew room.

Nothing snow-flaky about that. I wouldn’t want to come to work wondering if my coworkers want to be making fun of me, but don’t, not out of common decency, but because they don’t want to get fired...

And you raise the “pc police” virtue signal and know that 50% will defend whatever unclever, unnuanced thing you’re saying.

Bottom line, if some 17 year old gay kid was reading up on networking opportunities to pursue his dream about becoming an airline pilot, and he read this, what is he supposed to think? Is is it that difficult to see why your intellectual efforts could be better spent elsewhere?

Slop 01-05-2019 11:05 PM

Bets on how long it'll take this thread to be locked?

awax 01-05-2019 11:09 PM


Originally Posted by ReadyRsv (Post 2737303)
I’m not personally offended. However-, as a union member I’m sure you wouldn’t Intentionally insult your brothers and sisters. Especially those in a marginalized demographic. Right?

Wait, so making fun of the gay scabs is OK? Good to know.

ReadyRsv 01-05-2019 11:30 PM


Originally Posted by awax (Post 2737604)
Wait, so making fun of the gay scabs is OK? Good to know.

Well that would be a terrible idea because you can call someone a scab all day long but add in the the offensive language and they would have recourse to take you to HR where you would then get in Trouble and some time off of work. So I wouldn’t do that.

Oskeewowow 01-06-2019 03:48 AM

Ngpa 2019
 

Originally Posted by duvie (Post 2737351)
If any part of you believes in freedom from conformity and groupthink, then embrace consenting adults ability to do whatever they want, instead of drawing attention to our differences.



I couldn’t care less what my coworkers do on their own time, just don’t cause me extra paperwork or stress



In my opinion, what you wrote is the embodiment of true conservatism. Not whatever perverted form has infected our country. Bravo


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