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catIIIc 01-18-2019 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by Flytolive (Post 2745429)
The 787s will be replacing the 772s and there are very few routes that need the 77Xs, but buying a few of them rather than 45 359s saves the relatively huge expense of adding a whole new fleet. Kirby puts the odds of taking the 359s at only 20%.

Maybe but right now the 787-9 doesn’t carry as much as the 777-200er and -10 doesn’t have the range. If you put a -9 on Ord-hkg or Ewr-hkg as an example you are leaving a lot of revenue behind. So it all boils down to revenue lost vs cost of new airframe.

Flytolive 01-18-2019 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by catIIIc (Post 2745439)
So it all boils down to revenue lost vs cost of new airframe.

That is what yield management is for. Buying aircraft is for the rule not the exception.

UA couldn't be any happier with the 789 performance on the ULH flying that is only weight limited very rarely and only during very brief times of the year.

FlyingMaryJane 01-18-2019 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by 82spukram (Post 2743587)
Also net gain of 33 airplanes next year. Should get us to 13200 pilots total which would mean 800-900 new hires.


I think its a little more... maybe my math is wrong, but it says there are 12491 pilots on property, lets round up to make it easy... 12,500 and they want 13,200. But, there are 350 mandatory retirements in 2019.. 12,500-350=12,150 so that leaves 1,050 new hires to get to that 13,200 number I could be wrong though, but that would be nice if 1,050 new pilots came onboard!

Ni hao 01-18-2019 11:26 AM

**Rumor** Sims have been secured in Miami and France. They would like to get 1500 in 2019 hired. Company is planning on at least 500 to retire.




Originally Posted by FlyingMaryJane (Post 2745546)
I think its a little more... maybe my math is wrong, but it says there are 12491 pilots on property, lets round up to make it easy... 12,500 and they want 13,200. But, there are 350 mandatory retirements in 2019.. 12,500-350=12,150 so that leaves 1,050 new hires to get to that 13,200 number I could be wrong though, but that would be nice if 1,050 new pilots came onboard!



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