United Application to Interview
 

How long are people waiting from application to interview these days?

It varries between three days and never.

UAL is currently hiring as fast as it can (90-100 month) but there are still several thousand qualified applications on file.

That’s like asking how long, on average, it takes a golfer to hit a hole in one.

2014 til.......still waiting

Application published Nov 7th with a Feb 15 availability date. Received welcome email to start the process 31 Jan, Hogan 1 Feb. Completed Hogan 2 Feb, email confirming passed Hogan 4 Feb, scheduled interview for 20 Feb. There were dates available sooner, but wanted to complete a couple of interview prep sessions.

22 yr military background, 3300+ MEL PIC in various fighters. Current timelines sound like the standard 1 week wait after interview to receive CJO if it goes well, then United is offering classes within 4-6 weeks.

App submitted 10/13, start class in March.

App in since 2015. CJO in January.

I applied in 2011.
I do not have an interview.

I submitted in 2015 with 1000TPIC, but didn't finish my degree until 2018.

I finished my Masters in 2016....

9 years for me.

Pitts and Toga,

Was this the general length you saw with the other candidates?

5500TT
1300 TPIC
1600 121
8 internals
Standards/eval/IOE captain
Company Volunteer
Community Volunteer

5 years and waiting...

With that said I realize I've just now become competitive

I talked to a guy in DEN this week who had just interviewed, he started the process in December. He was a military guy but I didn’t ask what he flew.

My interview group the majority of them were guys coming straight off active duty. A couple regional guys in with apps in for several years and army pilot who had been flying part 135 for a few years.

I dont see 4 year degree. Did you leave that out? How much of that TPIC was 121?

When you applied (or how long since) is completely irrelevant!

Every app is scored based on the secret formula that UA has. When they want to interview 20 applicants, the computer spits out the next 20 names!

Historically they had separate piles, but I don't think they have those now, or at least they aren't under any court order to do so. But even if they do have separate piles, I guarantee one of them is not "who applied the longest ago."

Apply and then update as frequently as you can. Nobody knows what specifically goes into the secret formula, but more flying, more aircraft types, more PIC, a 4 year degree, more instructor/management positions, recommendations, more this, more that, and more of the other thing will all get you more points.

How many for each thing I don't know, but keep flying and keep updating and then someday (hopefully sooner rather than later) UA will let you know when the secret formula has spit out your name.

^^^This ^^^

Oops yes 4 yr accredited
The TPIC is all 135, as that's where I'm currently flying.

Thats a big box to have checked...right or wrong. Your numbers are in the ball park. I know plenty of guys that came from the 91/135 world. Justbe careful with the flight times if this applies. I have some NetJets / corporate friends that would try to make the argument that they were type rated so when they flew the empty legs in the left seat...they would log it as PIC. It could lead to awkward questions when they review your times. (This was sort of eluded to in previous posts about why the airlines prefer 121 time...its easier to verify the experience).

Its never too early to start practice interviewing. Emerald Coast or similar services can get you thinking about your experiences and how to apply them to the interview. If you work at XO you probably have plenty to draw from relating to customer service and dealing with people, etc.

Best of luck...plan a vacation or some place you need to be. Thats usually when thye call for an interview.

Yes it's all checked on my airlineapps just forgot to include it when I listed it above. I know exactly what you mean. Lot of people I know did the same thing but I did not begin logging any PIC until I officially upgraded. If it doesnt say Captain so-and-so I dont log it, even on Captain/Captain pairings.

Thanks for the encouragement, I'll keep knocking on the door and take the advice to begin preparation with one of the service.

Cheers!

Thank you, this is what I was looking for.

26 months for me.

23 months for me, but 4 months after a Centerline App review, and 2 months after adding Masters Degree.

Are you saying HR doesn't have the discretion to pull and review a dusty, or fresh, application manually? Some recent UA new hires implied otherwise after successfully shaking the bushes.

A few years ago the computer would skip over any app that wasn't updated within the last 6 months or had an expired passport/medical. Maybe they changed that but I doubt it. Whoever has access to airline apps at United could theoretically take a look at any app. The chiefs used to do that during meet and greets at CAL. If the computer can't select you because of expired whatever it is going to severely decrease your odds. If you have the pull to get your name in front of the right people I am sure they can expedite the process outside of airlineapps but that person probably had an updated app.

As for the length of having your app in I don't think it matters. They do like to see letters of recommendation and they never expire. It looks good to have some older recs that shows them that you have wanted to work there for awhile.

Virtual Job Fair
 

Did anyone attend who can offer insight? Helpful tips? News?
Thanks in advance.

I know some squadron buddies picked up after only having their app in for a month, others like myself had ours in for 10+ months at that point or longer. So clearly time in system is not necessarily worth much beyond ability to be invited to fairs as they come etc. Any one betting on that quick of a turn however is kidding themselves, luck has a big part to play in this system is my guess.

It was a pure "informational session." They took questions, but the answers were very generic in nature. The good news is UAL will continue to hire for the unforeseeable future, even through the summer.

I hope it helps and good luck to us all!

Here is another one....

Is this a pilot forum or did I make a wrong turn?

Becoming United
 

Has anyone done the "Becoming United" online assessment?

I am also interested in some SA on the new tool...just got the email yesterday to do Becoming United and the Hogan.

Update, Update, Update...
 

I started updating almost religiously about a year before I got hired. I cleaned up my app, had it reviewed, then sure enough I went through the hiring process and now I'm flying 756s out of the west coast, enjoying life.

I'd suggest always update and constantly QC the details listed on your app. Make sure your educational experience lines up for every school you've been from high school forward. If you have the time and can make it work, add some glitter on that resume and volunteer for a committee at your current union. The experience just might give you the push and perspective to make you successful in the hiring process. Good luck.

Is there anyone interviewing in June?


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Yes. 4 Jun.

Good Luck!


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Stats Please...Try to get an idea. Ty

Three years.
>10,000TT
Don’t use me as the norm. I know many good pilots with fewer hours than I have who got the call earlier.

First application was back in the 1999-2000 time frame as a regional F/O with approximately 4,500 hours total time.

Went on mil leave and didn't update the application until the 2003-2004 time frame. Had applications in with both UAL and Continental. Have kept applications up to date and active since then.

Went to the Veteran's Day job fair in 2016. Got a Hogan invite in October 2017, bombed it. When I was eligible to retake it 12 months later, I was deployed. When I returned from deployment this past February, I updated the application and received a Hogan invite two weeks later. After completing it, I got the face to face invite two days later. Interview dates were two weeks out from that point.

So apply, keep updating, don't give up, and have one or two professional consulting companies do a resume/application review. I can personally recommend Cage Consulting.

Good luck!