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Floyd 02-10-2019 05:06 PM

You must be talking about a different airline than United.

HuskerAv8tor 02-10-2019 05:07 PM

Thanks for the thoughtful replies. Gives me something additional to consider.

757Driver 02-10-2019 05:21 PM

F’ that. If it’s the last leg and you’re going home or if it’s after leg one of two, knock yourself out. If it’s on a layover, not a chance as your cutting into my hotel time.

Nobody gives a sheet if the Pilot stayed behind and saluted everyone in full uniform.

TiredSoul 02-10-2019 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by Setopbug (Post 2761376)
That extra twelve minutes at the hotel isn't going to make any significant difference at all in the life of an FO who might be in a hurry.

It makes a huge difference in the lives of the cabin crew, who have been told that we're a team. If the Captain briefs teamwork and then bails on his red-headed step children the moment they can climb over deplaning first class passengers, what signal does that send?

It makes a huge difference in the comfort level of that passenger who got stuck with seat 29B, who doesn't want to hear the APU spooling down and the heat descending on her before she even gets her emails pulled up.

It makes a difference in the customer service experience of every single passenger who gets to see a pilot standing there thanking them for their business and their trust and asking them to come back.

I can sincerely empathize with any FO who might be frustrated they are held hostage to their flying partner's whims, but this one is really important to both of us and I'm going to insist on it. When you upgrade, then it will be your decision.

I will say this: the more you make this job all about your wants or needs, the more you and the people around you are going to suffer.


This^^^
Thank you.

MySaabStory 02-10-2019 05:40 PM

It’s simple. Catch the van. “See you tomorrow at the gate.” No need to make a big deal about it.

Setopbug 02-10-2019 05:41 PM


Originally Posted by HuskerAv8tor (Post 2761382)
Thanks for the thoughtful replies. Gives me something additional to consider.

You're welcome. Ask these guys about it. I can't speak for anybody else, but I'm always happy to articulate my decision making process. I'm accountable to you too, after all. I honestly never even considered staying behind until I flew with this really great Captain - zero ego - who insisted on that simple act. It was one of those "aha" moments.

I can tell you from my experience, the customers actually appreciate that face to face. I've got hugs and tears and fist bumps and even angry *****ing and nasty remarks. And once even jet bridge O2/AED.

ugleeual 02-10-2019 05:55 PM

I’d tell the captain to move aside so I can get out... not his/her call how long you stay after landing.

awax 02-10-2019 05:56 PM


Originally Posted by Setopbug (Post 2761376)
That extra twelve minutes at the hotel isn't going to make any significant difference at all in the life of an FO who might be in a hurry.

It makes a huge difference in the lives of the cabin crew, who have been told that we're a team. If the Captain briefs teamwork and then bails on his red-headed step children the moment they can climb over deplaning first class passengers, what signal does that send?

It makes a huge difference in the comfort level of that passenger who got stuck with seat 29B, who doesn't want to hear the APU spooling down and the heat descending on her before she even gets her emails pulled up.

It makes a difference in the customer service experience of every single passenger who gets to see a pilot standing there thanking them for their business and their trust and asking them to come back.

I can sincerely empathize with any FO who might be frustrated they are held hostage to their flying partner's whims, but this one is really important to both of us and I'm going to insist on it. When you upgrade, then it will be your decision.

I will say this: the more you make this job all about your wants or needs, the more you and the people around you are going to suffer.

^^^^^^^This^^^^^^^^

Well said, thank you.

HuskerAv8tor 02-10-2019 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by ugleeual (Post 2761415)
I’d tell the captain to move aside so I can get out... not his/her call how long you stay after landing.

On the contrary. The shuttle doesn’t leave until the captain is there too.

baronbvp 02-10-2019 06:05 PM

Give the tired pax someone to thank, high five, snark, or just smile at as they leave. You got them there safely. They deserve to see the jet boss on their way out. Then walk off into the night successful.


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