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New hire. Know things could dump/change/viral outbreak/terrorist/Murphy At any moment but assuming we maintain a solid hiring and retirement trajectory can anyone comment a wag estimate on time (with company) to get a seat WB FO at SFO or EWR? Thanks!

The future is unknown!!! However, the current can be reported

After the last vacancy bid that closed in December (a new one closes in a week) we had the following:

Junior pilot on the property = approx 12700

Junior CAP in EWR 10568
Junior 777 FO in EWR 10822

Junior CAP in SFO 10831
Junior 777 FO in SFO 11317

So, you would need to move up about 1400 numbers from the bottom to be the most junior 777 FO and about 1900 numbers to be the most junior Captain. How long it would take to hire those numbers is the great unknown. Based on current hiring it would be very fast, but hiring can change in the blink of an eye.

With no growth and no shrinkage, it would take just over 3 years worth of retirements to get to 1400 and just over 4 years to get to 1900.

Great info. Thanks for quick post. Happy to be here. Gonna be a great ride no matter what.

Don't sweat it. When I was hired, we were running just under two years for EWR 737CA. I upgraded as soon as I could, nine years after my FO IOE was complete.

I enjoyed every single minute.

Senior flt ops and FTC are making plans for 3 year upgrades FWIW

We basically already have that. About 3.5 yrs last bid. This bid will probably see the junior CA at 4 yrs from indoc, but WB FO is holding steady right at around 3 yrs.

Thanks all!

What's crazy is WB FO is about the same seniority as NB CA!

To hold a line is a completely different story.

That’s what great about United and Airlines in general.....you can bid for whatever you want....and if you don’t like what you are doing just change your bid! Lots of people don’t want to fly to China or WB long haul. Some people hate domestic flying because they already did that on an RJ. Choice is great, but choose wisely ��

100% spot on.....

One leg, fly 6 hours sleep 3....land.....33 hour layover, fly home....done for the week.

Sounds easy, but iro on the 777-200 3man sucks, most of the rest period is during service. With the choice of coat closet with no ac or a seat in the cabin with the lights on and service happening.

Whiners. 🙄 lol
757 rest seat is by far the worst!
(Waiting for a GUM 737 chime-in now)

You haven’t had the true experience of “suckage” until you’ve been a crew member on an MD-11 going international with ZERO crew rest facilities! Just a lounge chair pad (not even the chair) to sleep on - on the galley floor!!! First time crossing 30 west, hit some clear air turbulence and BAM!!! I get tossed around like a rag doll.

I guess crew rest facility “suckage” is all relative....

Done that one too. 3across coach.lying on the ground with tray tables down and blankets over top. Still literally laugh out loud at the slide in etops class with the pilot in coach. Never had a 757 rest more than 2:40.

The 787 and 777-300 spoil you

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