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Regularguy 04-20-2019 02:51 PM

So what’s the point of this thread?

DAL beats UAL on the revenue side of the equation, has a different contract and fleet mix so who’s apple are being compared with who’s oranges?

oldmako 04-20-2019 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by Regularguy (Post 2805976)
So what’s the point of this thread?....

Brains and Bass. http://morningmoss.com/wp-content/up...-fishing-5.jpg

DashTrash 04-20-2019 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by cadetdrivr (Post 2805959)
When comparing UAL to DAL, don't forget that virtually ALL of DAL's ground staff (above and below the wing) except for MX is "outsourced" to DGS (DAL Global Services). DGS employees are non-union and a majority are part-time.

Not only is it a lower actual cost of labor, but it also ends up in a separate entry from labor (pilots, FAs, Mechs) on the financial report. Meanwhile, all the UA hubs and most of the large stations are staffed by mainline employees.

One can compare UAL to DAL, but it's not apples-to-apples without moving some items around on the spreadsheet. But yes, DAL is still lower.

So is a great deal of their long haul wide body flying.

Floyd 04-20-2019 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by oldmako (Post 2805985)

With the proper utensil, that should fillet real nice.

GuardPolice 04-20-2019 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by DashTrash (Post 2805993)
So is a great deal of their long haul wide body flying.


We at Delta have some top end issues for sure but UAL has its own share of issues on the low end of scope.


GP

BMEP100 04-20-2019 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by cadetdrivr (Post 2805959)
When comparing UAL to DAL, don't forget that virtually ALL of DAL's ground staff (above and below the wing) except for MX is "outsourced" to DGS (DAL Global Services). DGS employees are non-union and a majority are part-time.

Not only is it a lower actual cost of labor, but it also ends up in a separate entry from labor (pilots, FAs, Mechs) on the financial report. Meanwhile, all the UA hubs and most of the large stations are staffed by mainline employees.

One can compare UAL to DAL, but it's not apples-to-apples without moving some items around on the spreadsheet. But yes, DAL is still lower.

It is apples to apples. We just slice em different. Two major US Flag carriers. There isn’t a better comparison.

I did not know the Delta gate agents weren’t Delta employees any more.

Whatever. If all you claim is true, it confirms in part why Delta chose Atlanta over Minny, and why their profit sharing is higher.

DashTrash 04-20-2019 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by GuardPolice (Post 2806016)
We at Delta have some top end issues for sure but UAL has its own share of issues on the low end of scope.


GP

From what I can remember, our low end scope is almost identical to Delta's. Including the 50 seat language. Please let me know where I'm wrong.

TransWorld 04-20-2019 05:27 PM

So, without looking back, what is the woman holding in her hand?

oldmako 04-20-2019 05:32 PM

The first, the helm.
The second, Micropterus salmoides....

m3113n1a1 04-20-2019 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by BMEP100 (Post 2806019)
It is apples to apples. We just slice em different. Two major US Flag carriers. There isn’t a better comparison.

I did not know the Delta gate agents weren’t Delta employees any more.

Whatever. If all you claim is true, it confirms in part why Delta chose Atlanta over Minny, and why their profit sharing is higher.

This isn't true about gate agents. I don't have specific numbers, but the vast majority of gate agents and rampers I interact with are Delta employees.


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