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fadec 06-22-2019 01:41 PM

UAL hosts Drag Queen Brunch in EWR [NSFW]
 
I won't elaborate, but if we had a vote on this stuff, you could count me as a "no".

Proof...

Link to united's tweet.

One of the links in the tweet has video.

OOfff 06-22-2019 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by fadec (Post 2841501)
I won't elaborate, but if we had a vote on this stuff, you could count me as a "no".

Proof...

Link to united's tweet.

One of the links in the tweet has video.

What about this is NSFW?

AirBat 06-22-2019 02:38 PM

Well, it’s a good thing nobody asked you. This supported a great charity.

wolfmanpack 06-22-2019 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by fadec (Post 2841501)
I won't elaborate, but if we had a vote on this stuff, you could count me as a "no".

Proof...

Link to united's tweet.

One of the links in the tweet has video.

The fact that the company believes they can get away with this is incredulous. I am employed by UAL. UAL DOES NOT REPRESENT MY VALUES OR MORAL STANCE ON THIS MATTER.

The fact that UNITED AIRLINES believes they can use the term "WE" with anything related to this debauchery is appalling!

JoePatroni 06-22-2019 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by wolfmanpack (Post 2841554)
The fact that the company believes they can get away with this is incredulous. I am employed by UAL. UAL DOES NOT REPRESENT MY VALUES OR MORAL STANCE ON THIS MATTER.

The fact that UNITED AIRLINES believes they can use the term "WE" with anything related to this debauchery is appalling!

What exactly are they "getting away with?"

OOfff 06-22-2019 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by wolfmanpack (Post 2841554)
The fact that the company believes they can get away with this is incredulous. I am employed by UAL. UAL DOES NOT REPRESENT MY VALUES OR MORAL STANCE ON THIS MATTER.

The fact that UNITED AIRLINES believes they can use the term "WE" with anything related to this debauchery is appalling!

Thanks for letting anonymous pilot forum members know what your anonymous opinion is.

wolfmanpack 06-22-2019 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 2841557)
Thanks for letting anonymous pilot forum members know what your anonymous opinion is.

I've posted my thoughts on similar corporate activists positions on the company website so if you think I'm hiding behind anything anonymous you are mistaken.

Are you one of those that believe that tolerance only applies to people that agree with your positions on such matters?

OOfff 06-22-2019 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by wolfmanpack (Post 2841561)
I've posted my thoughts on similar corporate activists positions on the company website so if you think I'm hiding behind anything anonymous you are mistaken.

Are you one of those that believe that tolerance only applies to people that agree with your positions on such matters?

You have every right to your opinion, and to scream it into the void here and elsewhere. You aren’t (and shouldn’t be) immune to the consequences of that opinion.

It’s not a matter of your fun “you’re not tolerating my intolerance” rhetorical nonsense.

2StgTurbine 06-22-2019 03:19 PM

Will somebody think of the children?!:rolleyes:

Seriously though, a drag queen show might have been subversive in the 60s, but today it is pretty tame.

While I'm sure you stay will within your comfort zone, you might want to attend a show. Nothing but cheesy songs, lots of splits, huge wigs, and some dirty jokes (only if you are smart enough to get them). Would you rather the media show United dragging passengers off a plane or show that they are capable of enjoying some lighthearted entertainment?

Now if you really want to see something, go to a Thai ladyboy show!:eek:

navigatro 06-22-2019 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by wolfmanpack (Post 2841554)
The fact that the company believes they can get away with this is incredulous. I am employed by UAL. UAL DOES NOT REPRESENT MY VALUES OR MORAL STANCE ON THIS MATTER.

The fact that UNITED AIRLINES believes they can use the term "WE" with anything related to this debauchery is appalling!

you said it yourself. you are EMPLOYED by UA. You are NOT UA.

UA (i.e. the corporate HQ) can do whatever they want to.

Not sure why you are so worked up about it.

You are entitled to your own personal (bigoted/hateful/angry) opinions.

Slaphappy 06-22-2019 04:27 PM

Remember when people warned everyone about that slippery slope thing?

LNL76 06-22-2019 05:01 PM

I don't think this kind of event is appropriate in an airport terminal. If you have young children, you'd probably agree.

GogglesPisano 06-22-2019 05:01 PM

If you feel so strongly, why don't you stand on your convictions and resign from UAL?

C11DCA 06-22-2019 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by wolfmanpack (Post 2841614)
Okay you tell me exactly what UAL employees may say and not say, on their own time, if you think free speech does not apply to its employees and even more specifically as it pertains to their deeply held religious beliefs?

I'm sure you being a supreme court justice can settle the matter right here and now.

So let's hear your ruling!

Google is your friend. Here is a Forbes article, a liberal left leaning publication. :rolleyes:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tomspig.../#c44a2f838c87

JoePatroni 06-22-2019 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by C11DCA (Post 2841623)
Google is your friend. Here is a Forbes article, a liberal left leaning publication. :rolleyes:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tomspig.../#c44a2f838c87

That's almost as bad as the other leftist rag, the WSJ.

wolfmanpack 06-22-2019 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 2841621)
If you feel so strongly, why don't you stand on your convictions and resign from UAL?

No the better question is, as United Airlines is a company primarily focuses on transporting people via aircraft from point A to B to C and so on, why do they believe it necessary to alienate a percentage of their customers and employees by jumping into the corporate activist arena? Do they believe that this truly works to bring unity to their employee groups and garner the largest customer base?

The bottom line here is that the higher ups at almost every corporation have decided that they are going to try to cram down this repulsive, immoral agenda down the throats of their customers and employees and they are not afraid of using intimidating tactics to do it.

We are all different with different beliefs, etc. Do you really believe that one should feel that should have to resign when their company begins delving into religious matters that alienate a segment of their employees? That is threatening and harassment!

wolfmanpack 06-22-2019 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by C11DCA (Post 2841623)
Google is your friend. Here is a Forbes article, a liberal left leaning publication. :rolleyes:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tomspig.../#c44a2f838c87

I'll wait to hear what you as a supreme court justice rules, not forbes or the wsj.

Please share you legal ruling.

JoePatroni 06-22-2019 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by wolfmanpack (Post 2841631)
No the better question is, as United Airlines is a company primarily focuses on transporting people via aircraft from point A to B to C and so on, why do they believe it necessary to alienate a percentage of their customers and employees by jumping into the corporate activist arena? Do they believe that this truly works to bring unity to their employee groups and garner the largest customer base?

The bottom line here is that the higher ups at almost every corporation have decided that they are going to try to cram down this repulsive, immoral agenda down the throats of their customers and employees and they are not afraid of using intimidating tactics to do it.

We are all different with different beliefs, etc. Do you really believe that one should feel that should have to resign when their company begins delving into religious matters that alienate a segment of their employees? That is threatening and harassment!

What exactly is United's "repulsive, immoral agenda" that offends you so much? "Intimidating tactics?" Drama queen much?

Skip0927 06-22-2019 05:47 PM

I for one am going to begin dressing in drag for work. The ladies uniform is tieless, therefore, when i roam our terminals tieless, i will be “in drag.”

cadetdrivr 06-22-2019 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by JoePatroni (Post 2841639)
Drama queen much?

Ha! The irony! Love it.

One thing I've (eventually) learned as an adult:

Those that are the most repulsed at others behavior are really projecting their own insecurity and/or issues.

So for those that are the most upset by this, just put on the dress and get it over with. We'll still accept you.

There are FAR bigger issues in this world to get worked up over.

OOfff 06-22-2019 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by LNL76 (Post 2841620)
I don't think this kind of event is appropriate in an airport terminal. If you have young children, you'd probably agree.

Oh no, kids might find out about drag queens!

ox999 06-22-2019 06:04 PM

...meanwhile, Delta continues to kick our A$$.

ThePenguin328 06-22-2019 06:17 PM

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I heard the whole thing was Scott Kirby’s idea......

JoePatroni 06-22-2019 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by ThePenguin328 (Post 2841657)
I heard the whole thing was Scott Kirby’s idea......

Now you’ve done it. :D

CLE to IAH 06-22-2019 06:26 PM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 2841655)
I never said there should be consequences from the government. That’s what free speech is. If, however, you voice opinions that make private people want to disassociate from you, mock you, or otherwise treat you differently, they should be able to.


Shouldnt that freedom go both ways?

OOfff 06-22-2019 06:37 PM


Originally Posted by CLE to IAH (Post 2841661)
Shouldnt that freedom go both ways?

Does it not currently?

C11DCA 06-22-2019 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by wolfmanpack (Post 2841634)
I'll wait to hear what you as a supreme court justice rules, not forbes or the wsj.

Please share you legal ruling.

Again. Google is your friend. Try it.

Slaphappy 06-22-2019 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 2841652)
Oh no, kids might find out about drag queens!

I thought you were leaving this site?

Skyward 06-22-2019 07:05 PM

What’s getting really annoying is the double standard. Somehow it’s ok for the LBTQ crowd to force their ideology on everyone else (men, women, families, kids), but if you voice your opposition to that lifestyle being pushed in your face, then your criticized or even told to resign your career.

Why do companies love to celebrate this so much? I don’t ever remember a Straight Pride campaign. I’m not judging or criticizing, just getting tired of it being advertised like the latest trend that everyone should be forced to embrace.

The comments on Twitter are hilarious though. 99% find this inappropriate, and I seriously doubt it’s good for business.

C11DCA 06-22-2019 07:15 PM


Originally Posted by Skyward (Post 2841671)
What’s getting really annoying is the double standard. Somehow it’s ok for the LBTQ crowd to force their ideology on everyone else (men, women, families, kids), but if you voice your opposition to that lifestyle being pushed in your face, then your criticized or even told to resign your career.

Why do companies love to celebrate this so much? I don’t ever remember a Straight Pride campaign. I’m not judging or criticizing, just getting tired of it being advertised like the latest trend that everyone should be forced to embrace.

The comments on Twitter are hilarious though. 99% find this inappropriate, and I seriously doubt it’s good for business.

How are they forcing it on you? No one is mandating that you have to attend any event or even agree with it.

Are you upset with corporate celebrations associated with Black History month? Or Women’s history? United does those too.

GuppyPuppy 06-22-2019 07:18 PM

This is not allowed.

Everyone knows which airline is "New York's Gayest".

Google it.

Gup

OOfff 06-22-2019 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by Skyward (Post 2841671)
What’s getting really annoying is the double standard. Somehow it’s ok for the LBTQ crowd to force their ideology on everyone else (men, women, families, kids), but if you voice your opposition to that lifestyle being pushed in your face, then your criticized or even told to resign your career.

Why do companies love to celebrate this so much? I don’t ever remember a Straight Pride campaign. I’m not judging or criticizing, just getting tired of it being advertised like the latest trend that everyone should be forced to embrace.

The comments on Twitter are hilarious though. 99% find this inappropriate, and I seriously doubt it’s good for business.

Ask yourself this question: WHY would you want a straight pride campaign?

Skyward 06-22-2019 07:51 PM


Originally Posted by C11DCA (Post 2841674)
How are they forcing it on you? No one is mandating that you have to attend any event or even agree with it.

Are you upset with corporate celebrations associated with Black History month? Or Women’s history? United does those too.

It might be hard to avoid it in an airport.

I’m not upset at anyone, btw. I just don’t know why some companies think other people want to see that.... because most people don’t.

This is way different than Black or Women History.

Skyward 06-22-2019 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 2841685)
Ask yourself this question: WHY would you want a straight pride campaign?

I don’t. It sounds silly doesn’t it... people trying to advertise their sexual preferences on others and all...

ShyGuy 06-22-2019 07:58 PM

Yeah this just seems weird and out of place. But, it is the the age of virtue signaling.

OOfff 06-22-2019 08:19 PM


Originally Posted by Skyward (Post 2841702)
I don’t. It sounds silly doesn’t it... people trying to advertise their sexual preferences on others and all...

It’s almost as if heterosexuality and homosexuality have been treated differently throughout history 🤔

Slaphappy 06-22-2019 08:48 PM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 2841707)
It’s almost as if heterosexuality and homosexuality have been treated differently throughout history 🤔

Both aren't equal.

OOfff 06-22-2019 08:50 PM


Originally Posted by Slaphappy (Post 2841710)
Both aren't equal.

They haven’t been treated equally. That is correct.

tonsterboy5 06-23-2019 12:53 AM

The world is gonna come to an end cause a company throws a drag party. Almost like it came to an end during mardigras party or that time pilots wore a football tie to work. Sports and mardi gras were forced down my throat. Such a horrible world we live in. I dont watch football or go to Mardi Gras but oh well, the world will go on without me crying about what a company or individuals do. No one voices hate against those activities nor claims they are forced down their throat why? Cause they are done by a still oppressed group.

cal73 06-23-2019 02:35 AM

Meanwhile on the ramp in ewr, we landed :15 early and our gate was changed to an occupied gate and we ended up being :15 late. And yes had to call for Ramp crew, and a jetway driver. I’m not against a drag show. It’s not for me but let’s focus on the airline operation a little here. Ewr is not improving. It’s seems like it’s getting worse.


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