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GuppyPuppy 08-09-2019 01:42 PM

CPP
 
Hello all,

My nephew is just starting out and is currently working as a CFI. He has about 400TT.

How does the Career Path Program work? Is it just a guaranteed interview after x amount of time at a participating regional?

Thank you.

Gup

blizzue 08-09-2019 02:47 PM

https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/company/career/program.aspx

PhantomHawk 08-09-2019 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by GuppyPuppy (Post 2867741)
Hello all,

My nephew is just starting out and is currently working as a CFI. He has about 400TT.

How does the Career Path Program work? Is it just a guaranteed interview after x amount of time at a participating regional?

Thank you.

Gup

Definitely no guarantees, except a guaranteed Hogan test. The rest is up to the applicant, and UAL’s hiring decision. The applicant gets to skip the technical assessment. If the Hogan is passed, then he/she gets the interview....right away. If the interview is successful, the applicant is placed in a pool based on seniority at the regional, and also based on acquiring the time minimums set by the program. Once all those criteria are met, the applicant undergoes a “final review”, where the applicant’s training record, personnel file, and attendance/reliability are examined. That’s the last hurdle. Successful review means a class date at UAL. Unsuccessful review means completely removed from program. ALSO.....and this is VERY important......if the applicant is in the pool after a successful interview, and manages to be invited for an “off the street” interview......it’s quite a gamble, because tanking THAT interview will also remove you from the program.

Hopefully that answers some of your questions, but I’d read the official documents for yourself.

RoyerYetlink 08-09-2019 08:50 PM


Originally Posted by PhantomHawk (Post 2867840)
Definitely no guarantees, except a guaranteed Hogan test. The rest is up to the applicant, and UAL’s hiring decision. The applicant gets to skip the technical assessment. If the Hogan is passed, then he/she gets the interview....right away. If the interview is successful, the applicant is placed in a pool based on seniority at the regional, and also based on acquiring the time minimums set by the program. Once all those criteria are met, the applicant undergoes a “final review”, where the applicant’s training record, personnel file, and attendance/reliability are examined. That’s the last hurdle. Successful review means a class date at UAL. Unsuccessful review means completely removed from program. ALSO.....and this is VERY important......if the applicant is in the pool after a successful interview, and manages to be invited for an “off the street” interview......it’s quite a gamble, because tanking THAT interview will also remove you from the program.

Hopefully that answers some of your questions, but I’d read the official documents for yourself.

You get two chances via the CPP. Or maybe not. UAL has been revamping the CPP for the last year or so and many are still waiting on their second Hogan.

PhantomHawk 08-10-2019 03:21 AM


Originally Posted by RoyerYetlink (Post 2867919)
You get two chances via the CPP. Or maybe not. UAL has been revamping the CPP for the last year or so and many are still waiting on their second Hogan.

That’s gotta be an uncomfortable feeling. However....it definitely bugged me that some 2nd Round guys still got to go before those of us who passed everything on the first try. Maybe this is UAL’s way of correcting that. My gut feeling is that’s not what’s happening, though.

BAe3100FO 08-10-2019 05:47 AM

I’d definitely look into the American Airlines owned regional partners first.

Pass the interview with one of their regionals and have a “GUARANTEED FLOW TO MAINLINE” when your number comes up (~ 5-7 years ish). Great to have that in your back pocket as one keeps updating with all the other career destinations out there.

But...then you’d have to fly for American!

Mr Hat 08-10-2019 07:27 AM

I would suggest PSA or Envoy for a regional. You get a real flow to American, no interview....When your number comes up, you go. While waiting to go, push for United and Delta. If they don't get to you first you still have AMR in your back pocket. Its hard to get AMR off the street because of all their flows. The CPP has about a 50/50 pass rate from what i understand. Envoy just got a new contract too.

NovemberBravo 08-10-2019 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by Mr Hat (Post 2868044)
I would suggest PSA or Envoy for a regional. You get a real flow to American, no interview....When your number comes up, you go. While waiting to go, push for United and Delta. If they don't get to you first you still have AMR in your back pocket. Its hard to get AMR off the street because of all their flows. The CPP has about a 50/50 pass rate from what i understand. Envoy just got a new contract too.

I think the pass rate is a lot lower than 50/50. Rumor is UA is tweaking or overhauling the program so changes may come soon.

PhantomHawk 08-10-2019 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by Mr Hat (Post 2868044)
The CPP has about a 50/50 pass rate from what i understand.

My former company’s MEC is claiming the pass rate is 17% over there. I have no facts to back that up, but it’s definitely less than 50%.

IAHB756 08-10-2019 11:41 AM

Sounds like then participating regional carriers need to look at their own recruitment if the CPP interview pass rate is that low.


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