Took it on a Saturday had the follow up by Monday afternoon.

Taking the Hogan at a library?? Man, y’all got me nervous. I use a Macbook and have never had pop ups, but heck I dont wanna risk it.

What are the new rules / equipment required?

No Hogan invite yet, but really hoping a CP meet and greet will tip my app over the edge.

I figure with the the Black Friday sales, now's as good a time as ever to get a suitable laptop / webcam / whatever else I need to get.

Also, after reading some posts, I'm starting to worry about where to take it. I have a smallish loft-style apartment that's technically all one big room (bathroom is separate) with a fairly open floor plan. Am I going to need to rent a different space for taking this or find a suitable hotel room???

Do yourself a favor and rent a temporary office space with solid internet in your area for three hours.

That should give you plenty of time to set up and test your computer, clear the space of unnecessary items, and get settled in.

This type of space is available all over, and not very expensive. Well worth the cost if you are concerned.

Hogan test
 

Disregarding

I will have to look into that. Thanks for the idea.

Is this a joke? Please tell me this is a joke.

Make your bacon and eggs like you do every morning, sip on your coffee with your dog by your side, clear the coffee table of all except those things and your laptop, then go.

Rent office space for the Hogan? ygbsm

Every year the stupid-hoops level goes up, while the pool of qualified individuals goes down. An HR wet dream.

Hey, I’ll jump on board...WeWork-type idea called WeHogan, you can come sit in my guest room (bonus: next to the WiFi router), I’ll put the bark collar on the dog to make it quiet, close the door and give you 3 hours at $69/hr.

I’ll even take you out for a beer after to debrief.

I took mine sitting in my recliner, in my family room whilst sipping coffee in my pajamas. I passed.

Thanks for the link. Any idea on what sort of results would be considered “good”?

http://dudespaper.com/wp-content/upl...de-bathtub.png

The Dude took The Hogan in The Tub.

How many of you regulars on here actually took the Hogan? . I did.
Got the email, sat down 5 minutes later and took it. Passed. Didnt sweat or overthink it.

I did the same, but got the TBNT email the next day. Devastated is an understatement.

It’s been a moving target through the years as far as what falls into the parameters set by the HR/pilot selection group.

But if you do a search, you’ll some consistent advice.

Apparently they recently changed the procedures for taking the Hogan. I heard from an FO that you have to download some spyware for United to have access to your computer and gotta webcam the whole thing + webcam around the space your taking the test in and there's all kinds of rules of what can and cannot be in the room. :confused: If I had a house with a office or other neutral /professional setup I wouldn't worry about it. God knows I don't want to fail the Hogan because they don't like the art on the wall, or deem it unprofessional that I live in a city loft, or don't like the fact there's a TV or Alexa in the background.

Normally I'd have just fixed a nice coffee and a snack, wore PJs and just sat on the couch. But now that they are webcamming everything, I suppose we now need to be presentable in an interview-worthy way.

The point of my original post was really to find out if I do actually need to invest in a webcam?? Because I do not have one. And this FO telling me about this claims people are failing the test because of software compatibility on old computers and pop ups within windows flagging your test and DQing applicants. Ridiculous hoops to jump through... but if I need to buy $$ electronics the after Thanksgiving sales are as good a time as ever.

This is getting to be asinine.

Yep. Talk about airlines overthinking the recruiting/hiring process just a tad the last 15 or so years. :rolleyes:

Talk about the applicants overthinking taking this test. Everyone I know who failed the Hogan thought way to hard.

I honestly don't think it's true, (web cam, software download etc.) and I personally think that some "FO" was just yanking Celeste's chain, unless of course if someone who has taken the test recently can otherwise confirm.

The company has started using integrity monitoring software similar to online academic programs. Your test can get flagged by the software for things like pop ups and other people in the view of the camera. I’m not sure if you are automatically failed or if it just triggers a review of the test. This is HRs response to people that were using notes or a copy of a passing profile. HR has known the test had been compromised for some time either by individuals or prep companies.

Confirmed, took the hogan a couple months ago.

Standard practice, try to go the cheap/easy route.

As opposed to the summer help hiring of 2007 where you had to go to an approved testing facility, show ID, and take it.

OR, heres a novel concept, just make the F2F process longer and have the candidate take it at that time, etc.

That’s what they should do. I had one of our recruiters/interview pilots tell me that they started the webcam deal because they had a few get caught using different types of gouge, and a couple even had someone else to take the test for them.

Here’s an easy solution. Do a basic phone interview with the person and ask the usual questions to make sure that they don’t have any skeletons in the closet. Talk about education, training history, employment history, experience, etc. They could even ask a few personality questions if they want. If the person does well enough on that, bring them in, take the Hogan as part of the interview, possible sim profile, and spend some actual time with them in the face to face interview. I’d think that you will get a better feel as to how a person would fit in by actually talking to them than analyzing some computer based personality assessment. We’ve kicked some really good people to the curb simply because they didn’t take the test well. If they show up and don’t score well on the Hogan but seem to be a quality individual that you’d enjoy flying a tough 4 day with, then just hire them. Their resume has already demonstrated that they can fly and pass our training program.

This is spot on. Couldn’t agree more.

Thanks. I talked to a friend today, solid dude, that took it in October and he confirmed as well. He also didn't get selected to continue in the process but is now currently waiting on class date at Atlanta Widget and Submarine Commander Jacket Inc. Sad because UAL was his first choice and now he has to wear his hat year round.

Myself, and others have been preaching that concept forever.

But as a general rule, we line pilots don't get enough say/input on the process sadly.

Sucks for him since we are his first pick, an all too common occurrence. Not the first (nor last) that a quality candidate was turned down by the aforementioned process.

I’d like to take the test and see how unemployable I really am. I’m not a very social person, I don’t like to be the center of attention, I don’t feel the need to take charge or to be in charge, I’m not impressed by status or income, but I do like fast cars, fast motorcycles, and anything that gets the adrenaline pumping. I’m horribly politically incorrect, I love an off color joke, I like guns and shooting sports, I’m annoyed by our hyper sensitive society, etc. According to the Hogan, I’m a bad apple, but when at work I play the part and act like a professional. Like everyone else, my training record is spotless and I seem to have a good time with everyone that I fly with. Could it be that the Hogan really doesn’t say much about who will make a good employee? I’d like to see it eliminated, but HR is mighty powerful when it comes to hiring pilots at United, and they seem pretty proud of their interview process.

See below;

Add to every question, "at work". That was some of the best advice anyone has given regarding the HPI on this board. Beyond the all to simple and not alway applicable "don't overthink it".

I may be able to pass it then. I left my ability to overthink in the rear view mirror years ago. I’m just trying to stay employed another 10 years at this point.

"I would like to learn to skydive at work"

It WOULD make for an interesting CQMV!

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You're already WAY overthinking it. You think those answers won't get past but you don't actually know that.

I watched this video: https://ravencareers.com/how-to-pass-hogan-assessment/ and then I took it. Tried to read as little as possible about it otherwise other than "be honest". Success. And I told it the not so good aspects of my personality, it didn't matter. It's calibrated to real pilots who had nothing to gain, not people trying to BS it and paint themselves in the best light possible.

Like the "old" days! What a concept. Airlines used to hire for experience. The more the better. Today? :rolleyes:

My point is that it may not be the most useful tool in determining if an applicant would make a good employee. Sitting down and talking to a person and reviewing their records will give you a better indication of that. Instead we send out a computerized personality test and toss you back into the water if you don’t score well. Other airlines are getting some great employees that we have turned away over the Hogan.

No problem. :D

https://www.military.com/video/force.../1615891300001

I would like to drop a bomb, at work.

Works if you fly the B-1.

Or have eaten catering from Delhi .....

Technical difficulties during test
 

Had multiple technical difficulties and calls to IT trying to start the test…

Aside from that, anyone ever pass the test that had a pop up blocker go off during the test? I 100% did not click anything, but their software said I did. Was able to finish the test, but now worried the proctor is going to flag me and I’ll not get to move forward.