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When can an individual expect to take the hogan test for United prior to being invited to an interview?

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This was in May, but I had 2 weeks between Hogan and interview. I do not have an indoc date however...expecting late October or November.


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In the time it took to write that unhelpful reply, you could’ve simply typed the answer.

“Teach a man to fish...” and all that.

Hello, I wanted to ask about people’s recent Hogan experiences. I took it three days ago and got the rejection letter the next day. I was devastated and still am considering United was where I really wanted to be. I was unable to record the end while submitting it as some people suggested in previous years because we are no longer able to have access to our cell phones while taking it. I did notice all green check marks for a mili-second after submitting my test though which led me to believe I passed or maybe just simply completed all required sections.

My question is what exactly does the rejection email say? Did it mention the Hogan at all in it? Or the Becoming United portion? Mine just said “After careful consideration of the information gathered during our pilot selection process, I regret we are unable to continue processing your application at this time.” I am worried that I actually didn’t fail the test. This is because I received a pop up web browser notification during the exam even though I was careful to close all browsers and applications per the test instructions. Unfortunately, this was in direct violation of exam protocol. I am still racking my brain trying to figure out why I received that alert during the exam on more than one occasion when nothing appeared to be open or running simultaneously. I was able to click OK which I did, verified nothing was open or running and continued on with the test. This leads me to believe I was flagged by the system for this and my results were considered invalid regardless of what they were.

Ultimately, I just would like to know for my own sanity considering I have taken many similar personality exams for previous employers and never have had an issue until now. With that said I understand that these exams are all different and the results are interpreted differently amongst employers to satisfy what they are looking for in potential candidates. Any info/advice and or previous experiences are welcomed! Thank you.

553, that’s a very tough letter to get and a big disappointment for sure. It seems unlikely that you’re at fault in any way regarding the process and I certainly hope the test evaluated just your answers. Others may have more insight on that as I haven’t taken the Hogan test. In hope other options work out and even a successful reapplication at United, which does happen.

Not that I am advocating breaking the rules, but how could they know if someone was on their phone?

That being said, I was a first time hogan no-go and my letter read almost verbatim what you got. It took over 2 years but I did get a re-invite and am very happily employed by United.

In 2007, we were required to take the Hogan in a test center. I went to some college to take it.

Now, I think you get recorded as you’re taking it in your own home.

That must be extremely new, like within the last couple of months. No recording either time I took it.

You’re required to have a webcam and microphone. You have to show that your desk and room are free and clear of the prohibited items.

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Is there a dress code?

Filler.....😂

Wow. That’s a little creepy.

I got rejected also back in May. Same message statement. They didn't say if I failed the Becoming United or Hogan. I'm still left wondering. The whole webcam thing protocol must be new because I had none of that. I guess United just isn't meant to be for now. I'd consider trying again in a year depending on where I am at. Good luck elsewhere.

Any luck with folks getting invited for the Hogan a second time? After the 1 year wait?

Rumor has it some CPP goons had a cheat sheet that was passed around. Screen shots of a guys test that was successful so it became the template for what to answer to get through the test. Not confirmed but a reputable source says that rumor isn’t far from the truth. So I’d imagine the webcam is a direct result from that.

I failed the Hogan in October 2017. Was deployed in October of 2018, when I potentially would have "re-qualified" to take the Hogan. Got back from deployment in February 2019, updated my Airline Apps once I was current in my civilian flying gig again mid-February, and got the Hogan invite two days later. Took it, found out I passed two days after that, interviewed April 10, CJO April 17, started Basic Indoc today.

That first Hogan failure was rough. However, life is like that. While I potentially missed out on a year of seniority at United, in my old job as a check airman and supervisor I helped a lot of our pilots who were having trouble either getting through training or out on the line. Who knows, maybe I was able to positively influence them and assisted them in becoming better pilots. Everything happens for a reason.

While I am the newest of new guys and now officially just 22 numbers from the bottom of the seniority list, I feel blessed to have finally made it to United. Every interaction I've had, from emails, to the interview, to day one at Basic Indoc has been positive and welcoming. They have made it clear they are glad we are here, and that it is an extraordinary time to be at United.

I wish you the very best and hope you make it through round two of the Hogan, interview well, and are on line a year and a half or two from today.

Different rumor says that it’s a “moving target”, and the profile of what they’re looking for changes from time to time. If that’s true, cheating wouldn’t be a very smart move.

I mean if you have to cheat, on a personality test....🤔

They're doing it all wrong. The personality test should be taken at the interview and used together with the interview to scale a candidate.

Using it as a screening tool is not really how these things are designed (or should) be used.

This was my thought exactly. Completely eliminating a candidate from consideration due to subjective results from a very impersonable computer test is very shallow minded IMO. I understand grading it and using it as a tool along with the F2F but if you want to really know about someone and how they will react, then have a conversation, face to face. The customers they are hiring me to serve are not a computer. They are real humans and I'm going to have to actually look them in the eye and engage them as such. Tells me that United is out of touch. The "Becoming United" module was all about bringing folks together, positively engaging your coworkers/customers and projecting the brand through uplifting human contact...then to get rejected by a computer. LOL! Very hypocritical IMO.

At least DAL tell you how to cheat to get through the test if you don't fall into the parameters the first time.

On one had, it's good training. Many times a customer will approach you and ask a question and you think to yourself "W-T-F-?". But then you can't answer the customer with TRUE or FALSE.

SkyNet is becoming self aware, the Hal9000 doesn't think you should do that, and the Borg will assimilate you.

On the other hand if you fail the first time, yet pass on the second time, what is it really testing? Was your basic personality really changed that much in one year? And if so, by what? Simply failing the test?

:rolleyes:

In my opinion it is more of a consistency test then a personality test, in my indoc class we took another personality test and the class was evenly split between the 4 major personalities of that test. I don’t think United is looking for a specific personality just someone that is consistent.

Anyone have their internet go out mid test? The test proctor company said to reach out to united so I emailed recruiting but havent heard back yet. Any other steps I can take? Thanks.

Your first hogan test is done - they won't reply.

I agree! It is a consistency test. Don’t read into the questions. Just answer your with your first gut response. I failed it the first time. Fortunately, I was hired by another airline two weeks later. I answered with my first “gut response” on their version of the test.

Seriously? So I’m SOL because my ISP is unreliable?

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This site has questions nearly identical to Hogan if anyone is interested

https://www.123test.com/personality-test/

I had a CP meet and greet, then the job fair, both went great. Then those facilitated the official portion and the becoming United then Hogan. After which I got the rejection e-mail. During the test I also recieved a popup notification/violation in the background and also the program froze on me two times but I completed the test and hope those errors weren't apart of it. I like to think I answered honestly although maybe spent too much time pondering some questions, who knows.

Needless to say you work your whole career towards this goal just to get pushed off the boat by a computer which is the be-all end-all. Without even a chance of talking to someone it felt like a huge kick in the nuts. Then stories of people taking it a 2nd and 3rd time and passing and getting a job makes it seem even more pointless. It's a screening tool apparently still too many applicants.

Then you watch programs like Aviate get rolled out because they are worried they won't have enough applicants? Who knows. Guess I'll start looking for the number for that truck driving school.

That really sucks, and you have my sympathies for sure. The good news is that times are good and lots of other great companies are hiring! Keep pushing... The fact that got noticed by United is proof you’re doing all the right things.

100%

And this is why I work for another major.
It’s not my number one, but I’m making it work. It’s extremely frustrating, though. Worked extremely hard to get all the quals, went to a “first tier university”, completed a masters, and end up at a major hiring guys with no degree and 0 TPIC. Complete waste of a lot of my time and money if this was the end goal.

Do they follow up after the Hogan over weekends, or only weekdays?

I took mine yesterday and nothing yet. I’m assuming Mon/Tues

The Hogan sucks.

I was hired in 13 so I am asking just out of curiosity but can you opt to take the Hogan at a testing center? When I took it I was at home on my computer. No camera, no worries about pop ups or the likes. If these are concerns then I would opt to use a testing center if possible. Computer fails.....not my fault. Pop up.....not my fault....etc. If I was offered the hogan today I think that is what I would do. Why risk it at home if it has become this strict of an environment.

Seems like everybody got the hogan test these days.

I didn’t think of a testing center. I did get a pop up even though absolutely nothing else was running.