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Originally Posted by ThumbsUp (Post 3471238)

You signed up for an account 3 weeks ago and randomly bash the Aviate program for some reason. Don’t spread bad info. I’ll paste the full paragraph you quoted above. It doesn’t apply to pilots that finish the Aviate program, but those who leave and return in some other non-pilot capacity:

Leaving the Aviate Program while on Aviate Leave and Returning to United

Employees who leave Aviate before completion of the program while on Aviate Leave will not be eligible for the Aviate program in the future, but will have several options on returning to United depending on which stage of the program they were in. The employee should contact Employee Service Center (ESC) for more details on the procedure they should follow.

the employee’s vacated position is no longer available, individuals are encouraged to seek a competitive position for which they are qualified, as long as a vacancy is available. If there are no available openings or the employee has not been selected for another position within 60 days of terminating Aviate Leave, they will be separated from employment at United at that time.

If the employee is eligible to receive credit for past company service, United calculates the employee’s adjusted company seniority date based on the employee’s prior company service date minus the period of leave. Credit for past company service is applicable only in determining vacation accruals, pass travel and years of service recognition programs.

Note: In the event of policy conflicts with any collective bargaining agreement (CBA), the terms of the CBA will take precedence over the published policy.

Your crazy ! 😂 company time is company time. No matter what position you are in the company you will receive company time off based on position. If your a FA and become a gate agent you take your company seniority with you. Any other way dosent even make sense ! Yes AVIATE is a joke and everyone running it !

I’ll break it down further for you. If person has 10 years of service with United and they decide to move around in the company the amount of vacation will change based on title. Pilot let’s say 5 weeks , mechanic 4 weeks , flight attendant 3 weeks or ramp agent 3 weeks.

Flying seniority is the sammmmeee thing ! How ridiculous does it sound that someone that has been with the company 20 years now transitions to a pilot role and he’s getting bumped off a flight by a new hire pilot ???

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Originally Posted by V1rotate2500 (Post 3471252)

It may not make sense to you, but it is what it is.

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Originally Posted by ThumbsUp (Post 3471262)

It may not make sense to you, but it is what it is.

It’s okay everyone here will read this but your attempt to scare away employees didn’t work. They are coming to the flight line and they are bringing every single minute of
seniority they earned.

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Originally Posted by V1rotate2500 (Post 3470911)

Wow I’d hate to fly with you as my captain. Your probably the guy that thinks his sh don’t stink. I can’t imagine how you treat your FA, gate agents and everyone else that plays a part in a airline.

Doesn’t sound like you will have to worry about that albeit you’d be wrong (very wrong) about what you posted about me. I enjoy interacting with CSR/FA/Ramp/tow team/tech ops etc and have for years. I’m very aware that without EVERYONE working together, this place grinds to a hault. My comment above was directed at any pilot who took offense to any employee who “transferred “ into a pilot seniority slot and kept some longevity for pass travel. You are obviously angry with pilots or “the system” etc and clearly read my comment from a defensive posture. Congratulations on your son’s accomplishment.

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Originally Posted by V1rotate2500 (Post 3471093)

Yeah well my son transitioned this year and guess what pal he has 5 weeks of vacation ! He was a flight attendant and was flying at the same time. The time came for him to start flying mainline. He has more vacation and flying seniority than his entire new hire class. I know it hurts to hear this but you’ll get over it.

Hey, I was also a recent internal transfer. I sent you a PM, I’d like to hear more about your sons transition if you don’t mind.