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Originally Posted by O2pilot
(Post 2965021)
What makes you think that DEN will be doing all that flying? Just because a flight goes in and out of DEN doesn’t mean all the flights from those 24 gates will be flown by DEN pilots. You’d be shocked how many pilots flying trips that have west coast to Hawaii are EWR based. DEN will grow some, but not all of it, for sure.
I'm sure DEN will still rank as a senior base even after all those gates are put to use, but IAH and ORD (where I'd be at 55%) are looking pretty stagnant/constrained the next few years. Kirby and his ilk keep talking about growing our mid-continent hubs, and DEN is the obvious place for that. There are rumors of another international destination possibly coming for DEN too. Time will tell, but I think the fastest ticket off reserve for the OP would easily be DEN. |
Originally Posted by CLazarus
(Post 2965029)
And frankly, I'd wager that DEN would get the largest individual portion of the flying regardless as this would be the more efficient thing to do..
...Not real efficient to do such flying with crews from other bases (and yes, I'm sure crews from other bases do at least some of it).
Originally Posted by CLazarus
(Post 2965029)
There are rumors of another international destination possibly coming for DEN too.
Ask "Airhoss" how that worked out for him. |
Simple. Join the ranks of the Poachers. Bid SFO left seat and after 1300 the day prior Poach trips in ORD, DEN and IAH. You will get a better line and better vacation as a bonus.
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I don't find it to be that bad. Live in Den and commute to LA on the Guppy. However, I started out in SFO and that sucked. The commute to SFO was terrible with 20 years seniority in the back. I have a crash pad in LA and find myself cycling more than flying when on reserve. I aggressively pickup early short calls to avoid red eyes. 50% of the time I hold a line and find that to be more painful than sitting reserve...red eyes and late arrivals that prevent you from getting home. Don't have to show before 10am on your first day of reserve. Most of the time you're catching the 10am flight home on the last day. Every now and then they'll pin you down with something that'll get your panties in wad on the last day...FDO or a short call. Don't get me wrong, there are times when I'll tell the schedulers, you can't do that! Unfortunately they can. Got to know the rules...they do. Last summer I was flying 25-30 hours getting paid for 76 (due to short calls). Line holders were getting paid for 76 and flying 76. Should be a slot opening up in LA in March as I head back to Den. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by Birddog
(Post 2965079)
Simple. Join the ranks of the Poachers. Bid SFO left seat and after 1300 the day prior Poach trips in ORD, DEN and IAH. You will get a better line and better vacation as a bonus.
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Originally Posted by John Carr
(Post 2965031)
But is has NOTHING to do with DEN becoming junior.
What I did not know until I specifically looked at it yesterday was that my737 FO seniority in DEN is now actually better than it is in IAH or ORD (setting aside the smaller amount of flying overall). Why is that? I'd hazard because DEN has grown in recent years and ORD/IAH have not. Enough with the thread drift for heaven's sake. Is anyone going to try and directly answer the OP's question: How is NB CA reserve life in DEN vs. ORD? |
Thanks for all of the input to those who replied. Yes I’ve been around the airline game for a long time, but had been out on furlough doing corporate flying up until last summer. So I’ve been trying to get back up to speed on all of this and I stopped trying guess what any airline is going to do because it’s always a crap shoot and I never seem to guess correctly.
I can hold 777 or 787 SFO or EWR, and the 19-20 days off scheds would be nice, but that 2 leg commute....ugh. From the sound of it taking a DEN or ORD captain bid and being on reserve would not be pleasant. Doing a 2 leg to LAX and holding a line on the guppy would also not be very appealing bidding at 75% or so. |
Originally Posted by catIIIc
(Post 2965221)
Nothing stopping you from doing the same if you think it’s so easy
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reserve on any fleet is supposed to be "short term."
So bid what you want, and don't bid what you don't want. If it looks like you'll be on reserve for more than 18 months, I would think twice about it. Just about everyone can stand on their head for a year. Once you push a year and a half it's hard to do. |
Currently on RSV as a Bus captain in EWR. Live in base (about 2 hours away) so I can sit short call at home. But I will echo the sentiments of other respondents that “long call” is a rarity. I’m always converted to a short call or field standby. I try to aggressively pickup a Newark trip to prevent going to LGA (drive sux) but will take a short call over field standby (that needs to go in the next contract). I would never consider doing this if I didn’t live in base. It’s “do-able” for me since all the kids are grown and don’t “need” a predictable schedule. Just my 2 cents.
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